"Jake Gyllenhaal"
2024-03-25 00:58:40
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Hi, I'm here. I'm here in the room. Just, I'm just being as quiet as I can. Um, I'm so excited to be on the show. So excited.
Oh my god. Welcome to Smartland.
Smartland.
Smartland.
Smartland.
So Will's got a different background because he's out of the country. Specifically, our northern, our northern brother, uh, or sister. Yeah. We may have talked about this before,
but when you go home, do you, you sleep in your old room? I sleep with my parents. Cause.
I always, it gave me comfort to get in between them. So I was, mommy, daddy cuddles. Yeah. No, I don't stay here. I'm not, I don't stay here.
Settle me. Could you ever, could you ever live there again? In Toronto? Yeah. Yeah.
By the way, I could. Will, do you have a second.
piece of gum you could put in your mouth for the record? Just to get it in stereo. I know. I just realized. That'd be great.
So we're recording. now, you're saying? Yeah. It's an.
audio medium. It is an audio. Okay. Got it. Um, I, you know, Toronto is very, uh, it's a great city and I could live here and there's so much stuff I love about it.
The problem is it's very gray from like November. It's Chicago. That's basically Chicago. I think it's gray, or I think you get more gray days. It's just where it sits, between the great lakes, et cetera.
You, we don't want to get into Ontario weather patterns, but it is great. Otherwise it's awesome. So you think.
that that would make you somewhat blue? Kind of like what people talk about in England and stuff like that. I don't know. I like it. Yeah, I do too.
I think it's cozy, cozy, right? But you know,
England, it rains and stuff, but you do get sunny days. Toronto, it's not even that it gets a lot of rain. It's that it gets a lot of cloud cover, uh, specifically. And I think at a certain point, you just, you know, it's reminding me once I had this dream where you do have the maple.
leaves there, though. So doesn't that offset it a bit? I do have the maple leaves here. I'm really.
excited. You're in town for some hockey, right? I'm in town. Yeah. This is going to come out way after, but I'm in town for the all-star game.
Um, I had a great night, uh, dinner last night with some of the boys from that, from a hockey podcast called spit and chiclets. Oh, is that right? Oh, yeah. With, with biz and Ryan Whitney and the boys. Yeah.
And, uh, it was so, uh, super fun, interesting dudes. Really, really funny. We had a lot of big laughs. That's fine. Um,
that's going to be fun for you taking a, taking part in that all-star weekend, right? Aren't you like managing a team with, uh, Connor McDavid? I am. I'm co, I'm like the celebrity co-captain.
Um, guys, I can't wait to talk to our guests. I can't wait for you to talk to our guests today.
He's considered one of the finest actors of his generation. Wait a shoe horn that in,
Sean. I can't. Listener. He's holding up a shoe horn. Okay.
Don't worry. He's got two on his desk. Smell them. By the way. Sorry.
I'm sorry. Why do you have those? Can't you just use your finger?
How many times have you said that? Ask my dad. I'll get my dad in here. He's got two.
All right. Sorry. Sorry. We go. I'm not trying to highlight whatever his stuff is on his desk.
What?
He's so giddy that he's at home. He turns small. He just feels comfortable.
That's still holding his teddy bear. Anyway, here we go. Let's not keep him. Let's not keep him waiting any longer. He's he, he's very busy and he's a huge, major global star, and don't, he's much younger than us.
He's not just a Hollywood Royal, but he legitimately comes from, and I did not know this real Swedish nobility. It's true. Oh, well, a man of many talents. He's fluent in French, like Will. He's musically inclined, like me and loves to cook.
Not like Jason. He even made an appearance once making pasta with Mario Batali on Food Network's. Molto Mario. It's my favorite just on screen. homosexual.
The brilliant Jake Gyllenhaal.
Jake Gyllenhaal. Hello,
Jake. Oh, it's been a long time. Jake Gyllenhaal. There he is. Oh, you have the whole name.
I don't know. Is it really? Is Jake Gyllenhaal the long?
version? It's Jake Gyllenhaal. Yeah. No. Count Jake Gyllenhaal?
You know, Jake, you've probably heard this before, but I have so much trouble spelling your name that in the Google search,
I just put G-Y and it comes up. Yeah, they're like, we got it. It's easy like that. Well, Jake, wait, are you still, do we still live near each other? Where are you at?
Oh, we don't. I mean, I moved to New York. Ah, you lucky man. You lucky man. Didn't we go up, uh, what was the name of that dog?
Runyon? Yeah. Jake is a world-class bicyclist. Is it? Are you really?
Comes no surprise to anyone who's seen his, his, his silhouette. Yeah. Have you guys known each other? Cause you're both grew up here? and.
No, how did we get to know one another? I mean, we live, we did live near one another. We had some mutual friends. We hung out for a bit. We did some bike riding for a bit.
And then I, I gassed. Jake kept going. And I think you're one.
of the best descenders that I've ever, I could get into a talk.
That is the world's greatest.
compliment I've ever heard. Nobody goes down a hill like you.
There are circles where that's a very positive thing.
Yeah. We're not in one. That's really funny. I will never forget that. I will never forget.
Are you able to, are you able to, to bike in New York? No, there's not as many bike riding opportunities, right? You're doing something different. Yeah. I mean, everybody bikes in.
New York. Yeah. You can ride bikes in New York. You can ride along West side highway and then up.
the West side highway pretty far. Oh yeah. I'd be scared too, though, because of the traffic, and.
people. And the potholes, right? The roads are all torn to shit. I always rode my bike. That's how we got around.
No, but not these kinds of bikes. These kinds of bikes are, like, you know, sports car level, performance tires. And you can go over a one little bump and they'll pop.
That will, there's sometimes where, like we would, my friends would, we'd go in the central park, right? Then you take the West side highway and then you'd have to cut in. And when you cut in, that's when you have to deal with about probably, I don't know, 15 blocks of pretty heavy traffic, because it's the center of Manhattan. And then you get into central park and you do the loops. It's still crazy there too.
Cause they're depending on the time. There's all these people walking, crossing and all that stuff. Yeah. People, tricycles and wagons. Even on.
the weekend. Yeah. When they shut down the roads and stuff, you've got like a million ding dongs and everybody's like tripping on acid for the first time in their life. Let's do a trip on acid.
in central park. That's what I did. I'd give anything to hang out with a million ding dongs.
Yeah. I know you. Oh, Sean, let's take a ball pit with any snack. What would it be? Oh, my God.
If you could fill a ball pit with any snack, what would it be?
Old snacky descender wants to know what you could fill your ball.
What, what, um, Jake, what I was going to ask you was, because we're talking about cycling like high level, like not just, yeah, I used to ride my bike, but I like, had a beat up piece of shit and not doing it for like necessarily to get in shape. And it occurs to me, obviously I've seen so many promos for your new movie where you look like you're going to fucking beat the whole world up a roadhouse, and it's unbelievable. It's amazing. It's not the first time he's been fucking stabbed himself tight. I've seen, I've seen you in shape before in other things.
And every time I have like nothing but envy, I'm like this motherfucker looks so good. And then what occurs to me is like, have you, and now we're talking about cycling, have you always been into fitness your whole life? Forget getting in shape for the movie and being a ripped fighter and crazy. Have you always been into exercising, staying mobile, playing sports,
doing that shit? Yeah, always. I mean, my dad, really? Yeah. My dad was super athletic.
He still is. He, he would wake me up in the morning doing yoga in front of my bed. Oh boy. And then he'd be.
like, then he'd be like, let's go for a run. Hey dad, can you turn the down dog? Just one 80 for me when I, when I get up, please. I don't want to be bulldog. Right.
When I get out of bed,
it's a technique of waking one up. Yeah. But like it, it was. definitely, it was, it was always perpendicular. Let's just, it was never FYI.
He's a kind guy. I didn't have a lot of space in the front of the bed from the room is growing up. So he, he used what he had, but he, he, he would wake me up and we would run. and he was always very physical and he always sort of like, I remember we do like maybe a mile and a half run when I was a kid and he was always so encouraging. And then, by the time we got to the end of the last block, he would always be like, you got it.
Is your, your, this hurts me. You got to run, you got to sprint, like sprint this last block. And we'd run and then we'd run up the driveway. Remember the driveway. We, just like, I'd be dying.
Maybe like, go, go, go. He always let me win. And so, wow. Interesting. Yeah.
We have this about it. Sean, Sean's dad was really good at running too.
He just tried to do it before Sean got up and it would be in a car.
It was just one direction. It was just one direction. It would be descending.
Yeah. He'd call for when he got to running away. No, that's interesting. I used to run with my dad every single morning too. And then I got, yeah.
He'd wake me up every single morning, and then I got old enough where I, yeah. And I'd start to sort of like complain when he'd wake me up and start to say, no, I'm going to sleep in this morning. And I was old enough where he'd say, well, all right, goodbye. And then, so it stopped for a while, but then, like everything you learned from your parents, you end up revisiting it and absorbing it when you're, when you're older. Like now, I run every day and I listen to classical music every day, and I'm becoming my father,
which is great. You know, I, I, my brother, my oldest brother. What's the opposite of interesting?
I was going to actually say that sort of like a preface to what I was going to say, but then I just stopped. And then, when it stopped, I was like, oh, that sounded like,
yeah, it's boring. It was definitely not interesting. I got the boring handle.
I got you. I was going to say it's interesting because my dad loves classical music and likes to exercise too. So there you go. We should hook them up. We should.
That's wild. We absolutely.
should. Sorry. I asked that just not related at all to what we're talking about. Go ahead,
you had a question. I was just going to say my brother used to wake me up at like four in the morning just to work on my legs. Cause I was so skinny. Yeah. So Jake squats and stuff.
Yeah.
Just legs every morning. Just legs. Can we get another shot at that sentence? Can we just start?
again? It's true. It's true. It's true. That's like not okay.
I know that I was exhausted every day. Okay. So I want to know this thing. And, by the way, I'm going to ask all the.
squats in the middle of the night. By the way, have you, have you, have you seen Sean's biceps lately? I mean, I, this, this is honest. I, I, I, I gave his little arm a squeeze. Uh, what Sunday.
it's well, it's almost as big as yours. He's stacked. Sean is like crazy built.
I worked out a ton. People cut me cause I'm in J. I'm in the Jalen Hall category. A lot of people refer to, they call me JG on the side. But, Sean, are you fucking, are you lifting?
No, I worked.
out for, for 20 years, like really hard. And then I was just, I'm now I'm exhausted and I just eat. Look, I have a bunch of questions for Jake Jalen Hall. Sorry. Sorry.
You don't want to talk about your physique.
No. So, Jake, I I'm going to ask you boring questions that I'm sure you've answered, but I did not know this thing about the noble, like nobility, Swedish thing. What's going on?
with that? I don't really know. I don't know. It's a pretty convoluted story that I've been told too. And then I've heard we, we, I do, I'm a descendant from some form of Swedish nobility there.
Um, yeah, that's about great. Great. Grandfather was, did you find this out doing one of the, uh, heritage tests? No, I, I've known it. We have like a coat of arms, you know, like what it's, yeah, we've like a coat of arms, and, and, and, but I don't think he was really, I've done a little bit of digging.
for a long time. I thought that he was a great, like a King, you know, like the descendant I was descended from, like a, like that kind of royalty. Right. But more and more as I did research, I realized that it was, um, he would actually, it was like a cataloger and collector of Beatles and he worked for them. Really?
Yeah, I think. so. I don't, I, like a hoarder? Yeah, sort of a form of hoarder. Um, no, I mean, he, he collected them.
He pinned them, you know, he was like, uh, you know, he, you know, those, those beautiful, you know, those, those things that they do, but I, he was a scientist, I guess. And then he was like knighted for his scientific work. Yeah. And then I think, I think that's how that, now, how much time have.
you spent there in, in, uh, in Sweden? Uh, anything at all? I have never been to Sweden. Excellent. What?
Do you have any desire to? I do. I'd want to go there for Christmas. I've been a few,
I've been a few times. And it's amazing, right? It's amazing. It's amazing. It's incredible.
Do you have family there, Jake? I have extended family there, but I, I, uh, I don't know them. There was a man named Herman Gyllenhaal, who actually I met, who came over from Sweden that was in contact with my dad. He's not the bug man. He's not the bug man, but he is a descendant of the bug.
Yeah. And, uh, and he, he came and visited us and he was like, he was the one who tried to bring us all together, Americans and Swedish. Oh, really? Yeah. I have some distant.
family in, in England that I haven't seen since I was a tiny, tiny kid, and, and, and, and others that I've never even met. And I, I, I feel guilty about that, I think, but then it's also like there would be, if you went down that lane, there would be hundreds, potentially, of people that you are somewhat related to that you have not yet met. And how do you, how do you guys feel about?
that? Well, I was going to say, and I don't, you know, I want you to take this the right way. Here it comes. No, I do. Uh, but if you think about it, if you think about it, they, they, you're, you're a person who's in the public eye.
And so obviously they probably know who you are, especially if they share your name, they could get in touch with you if they wanted to.
Oh, and they have to agree with that on them. Thank you. Transferring guilt. Yeah.
Sean, moving forward. Sean, real question, real question. What do you think your dad's new name is?
Can we talk about what a great descender Jason is for a second? Cause? I feel like we've moved off that and I really feel like we should go back to that. Yeah. I just want to, I just want to, I actually do have a compliment here, and it's actually, I want to say that, like, I was so profound.
It is scary to go down a Hill really fast. It really is. When you're on a bike, it's not like, it's not for the faint of heart. And I realize what a badass he is.
Yeah. I just don't think I've ever fallen before. I think I just need to fall once.
and I'll be riding the brakes. Yeah, but I was like, this guy's nuts. Like you were going so fast. I remember just being like, Whoa, he's gone. Like no concept.
Are you going down like?
Loma Vista? Are you going down cold? No, like Mulholland. We went down Mulholland. I remember.
there were car, it was crazy. You were just like, Oh, that's right. Right by the Hollywood bowl. Yeah. I was like, I was, it was crazy.
It was so fast. It was so dangerous. And I was deeply.
impressed. I really was scary. I know. I know a few boys, a few boys, a few guys. Uh, I sound like Sean.
I, I, I know a few guys who got, got really into cycling, including my brother-in-law Eddie and a couple other guys I know who got severely injured doing that kind of like,
well, and that's why, Jay, correct me if I'm wrong. That's why one shaves their legs. Right. In, in the anticipation of the inevitability from getting crushed. You mean, you mean generally, that's why anyone shaves their legs.
or you mean for no bicyclist, because you are going to, you're going to fall, you're going to fall and you're going to slide across the asphalt. And if you don't have any hair on your legs or arms, the skin does not ball up as much. And it, and cleaning it becomes less painful. Is that that's correct. Right.
I've heard a lot of things.
I think that's true. I also think like, I mean, uh, arrow being aerodynamic, which is sort of a thing, but I think there's like, there are a lot of superstitions. Like. I've heard superstitions from cyclists who are like, they are allowed to eat cheese, but it can't be melted because it has like more calories or something. I don't know.
There's all these weird things. So I don't know. I mean, I, I, but I do think also, if you're going to wear spandex that tight, like, you know, you don't want to have like hair pants, you know what I mean? Oh, you mean the hair coming through the spandex? Yeah.
Not a good law. And also just like hair pants. Like. it's just like spandex and hair, you know, maybe that's something, you know, but yes, the scab thing is true.
I thought it was excessive, Jay, because I remember you talking when you first got it, but I thought it was excessive when you started getting Brazilians as well, because I was like,
how is this helping? And I saw that when you were descending and I was like, that was not necessary.
I can go ahead and ride the saddle. Yeah. I don't need to, I don't need to arch and offer.
No. Because right as you sped off into like no, into literally like warp speed, I was like,
well, that was, you don't know how you're going to land. You don't know what's going to hit the pavement first and who's going to see what, right?
Needless to say, I'm no longer on the bike. I've sold the bike, Jake. I'm embarrassed to say, but I still have a huge drawer full of the funny outfits that I'm happy to sell to you on a very, very fair rate. Jake, I want to know about you.
growing up. Are you the right size? Would you fit into an old man's extra small? I did invite Jason.
just this year to a bike trip, actually. I reached out to you and invited you to a bike trip. It.
sounded very, very, very good. Can you say where you went? This was overseas, wasn't it? Yeah. I.
went to the Alps. Yeah. I went to the Alps in the Pyrenees. Yeah. We climbed the Alpe d'Huez.
We climbed the Gloubier. We climbed Mont Ventoux. We did this crazy six day trip. This guy's a specimen,
you guys. Wait, you went to the Pyrenees? You didn't go to Andorra, did you? It's the one place.
I want to go is Andorra. Yeah. We crossed over the Pyrenees, and we were in Provence, and then the last climb we did was Mont Ventoux, which is like, I think it's about 2,100 kilometers, and then it's like 11% incline the whole time, which was one of the most physically challenging things I've ever done, and also such an incredible experience. And really, it was, yeah, it's sort of inexplicable. Speaking of tripping, you just, by the end, you're just.
pushing to the euphoria. Yeah. Did you make it okay, like comfortably? Did you throw up?
afterwards? Was your saddle aching?
The first one we did out the Alpe d'Huez, I've ridden before, once before, but I rode it like maybe 15 years ago, and I had been working, so I hadn't been riding my bike a whole lot, but I had assumed that I'd be like, okay, I kind of know. And one of the things that I think is really important is just more mental, like how much pain can you handle, really? And so I was like, okay, I'll be fine, right? And when I arrived, we had like guides. We had two guys, ex-pros.
They were great guys, and then my good friend was with me, and he had been training like secretly, and I had been trying to get on a peloton like, for, I had just been like desperately trying. I hadn't been on a bike. I was just like, for a week, I was like, I'm just going to go really hard on a peloton. I'll be fine. Not applicable.
When I arrived off the train in France, the two ex-pros looked at my friend. They're like, well, you're ready, and I was like, wait, what? And so the Alpe d'Huez, we got up there, and I bonked halfway up the Alpe d'Huez. Meaning you just ran out of gas? I just ran out of gas because you can't, like, what happens is your body just.
can't, you just run out of glucose.
And we will be right back.
And now back to the show.
Have you ever ridden with Lance Armstrong?
Yes.
And how'd you do? Did you keep up?
No, I did not.
No.
I mean, like, when he wanted to let me keep up, I kept up.
Right. I watched one of those, one of those doc series about the guys climbing the Alps. that was on one of the streaming services last year.
Yeah, you told me, I watched that too.
Yeah, and I think like sort of 20 minutes less into the first one, I was like, mother fuck, this is hard.
The one thing I don't understand, Jake, is why, why can't the seat be more comfortable? Why does it have to be so hard? Yeah. You know, because, like you do lose, you lose circulation. It's so hard and things just go numb and it's not comfortable.
Like if it could just be a little pad, or maybe like a shearling top, you know, like a sheepskin.
You can do that. You can do anything you want. There's no, like, rules.
Jay, you should do a collab with Uggs. Uggs, baby.
Sort of a backrest, maybe even.
They have those too, man. Like you can do anything. There's no, there's no. like, you're not like riding in the Tour de France.
I'm a soft guy, you know.
Like, or even like something with an engine or, like, you know, two seats and passengers.
Or a rope that's connected to an engine.
An engine.
Like that flies in the sky and takes you places fast.
Speaking of which, what about those e-bikes? Do you have one yet?
Are we going to talk for an hour about bikes?
Until we're done with all of it.
I will. No, no, no, no.
I have a thousand questions.
I know. Sean's like, I can see his face. He's like, Oh my God, I asked one question about his Swedish Nobel.
Enough of the bikes.
I did. I have bought an e-bike. Yes. And you know, there are e-bikes. Like, if you want to come on the trip, any of you guys want to come.
You're not going to come on the trip. If you want to come on the trip, no, for real. Like. if you want to come, if you want to ride regular, you can ride like just without, but they also have e-bikes that are attached to like a heart rate. So you can choose your heart rate that you want to get to.
So, if you want like, and then stay at, and the bike will keep you at that place.
What do you do about all, you just wear headphones to, to mute out the ridicule you're getting from the other riders?
Like I am, just desperately, I really want people to, to get on this trip and come, cause it's fun, but they don't believe it. You know, no one believes that they're fun trips.
Where is it? Where is the trip?
Well, they change. Like we're trying to find new, cool places to.
Not Hancock park, Sean. Okay. I'm sorry. He won't be there.
All right, Sean, let's hear some of these bitching questions.
Finally, Jake, welcome to the show.
Jake has done a lot of theater. So Jake, hold on, hold on. Let me just hold on.
It's the Sean Hayes show.
So I want to know about growing up and with your, because I think it's fascinating that you come from a family. Your dad's a director. Your mom is this incredible writer. Your sister is also like, it's all, you're all killing it. So it's like, I, by the way, I had dinner with your mom at a mutual lawyer friend's house a million years ago.
And I was much younger than, and I hadn't really written anything yet. And I expressed to your mom, God, you know, I wish I was a better writer. It's just so overwhelming to me. And I remember this. I'll never forget it.
She said, the hardest part of writing is starting. And your mom said, that's me. And I still remember it. Not that that's not, we hear that all the time, but I was the first time I ever heard anybody say it was from your mom. And so I took that and I started writing, uh, and I wrote scripts and whatever, but that was because of your mom.
Holy shit. Jesus Christ. Wow. You're going to lead with that.
My mom will be actually so flattered by that.
Yeah. What a, what a memory. So it's just starting. It's the hard part. is that fuck.
But I hadn't heard that before.
Sean, I was going to ask every time you start, everything you think about my mom.
Yeah. I mean, really apply it to anything, I think.
Weird question, Sean.
No, it wasn't. He didn't even have a question mark on.
No question.
This is how bad the Sean Hayes show is.
Thank you for listening to the Sean Hayes show.
We just started and we ended. Thank you, Naomi Foner.
No, you know what? I will say, I will say.
That's my mom's name.
Wait, what's your mom's name? Naomi Foner.
So she, think about that. I will say, to Sean's credit, it is interesting to have something like that happen and that something that sticks with you. And now you're on with the person, JB. Yes. That's crazy to me.
It is mildly interesting. However, the way Sean said it was so fucking boring. So it could have been interesting.
Will, you come on The Bite Cycle and we'll talk so much shit about Sean.
I'll talk shit about anybody.
You don't have to go on a bike ride. It's a trip. You just listen to this.
But, Sean, get us back on the rails. We're sorry.
I will. I want to know what it was like. I know it's so hard. I want to know what it was like. I mean, again, I say this all the time on the podcast.
I grew up in Chicago with, you know, looking at Hollywood, like this thing. that was unachievable. So I came here with, so what was it like? growing up? And I know you get asked this all the time, but I don't know the answer.
Growing up around it. And then is, did you find that that's all you're talking about around the dinner table when your kids is the business? And how do you escape talking about other things? And, you know.
Jason, do you want to take this in tandem?
It is. I was just so curious to hear what your answer is going to be. Because I've got my, yeah. Yeah. What was it?
What was it? It's better, right? Gives you even more stuff to talk about around the dinner table.
I think it's a double-edged sword. Yeah. That is a double-edged sword. You know, I think in a way it's amazing. Because, you know, speaking of my mom.
You know, she taught me so much about all this stuff. You know, and how to find stuff that's good. And what's good. And when the dialogue's good. And then, same, you know, when I was a kid, my dad would, I'd play around.
I'd joke. You know, I was performing like when I was really little. Just joking around. And then he sort of would really encourage it. And kind of understood me in that performance stuff.
So there was outside of the kind of idea of, like, the advice and stuff. And watching their careers. And then saying, oh, you could go this way or that way. You know, oh, don't do this. Try that.
Which is a bit of a head start.
Yeah.
Well, how much of your own? Because a lot of people grow up with, and we take on points of view. Sometimes our point of view is colored by our upbringing and our parents and what we were, you know. Sometimes.
Well, a lot of them.
When you go into the same. But certainly when you, vocationally, when you go into the same thing that your parents did. Do you now, do you look back and go like, oh, I see the influence of my mom or my dad speaking to me. While I, when I look at a script. When I think about doing something.
When I'm making a choice as an artist, if you will. Do you, do you recognize that?
I try to. Both good and bad, you know. Yeah. I really do. I try as best as I can, you know, to.
I mean, what I do think is a lot of those things, as we get to be a certain age, become like an unconscious thing, right? Yeah. You, you put them into experience and then you do things. You're lucky enough to make things and, and you keep doing it, and then you try them out and then we get a tool belt and then we're using it. You know, and so they are a mix of that.
I can't differentiate anymore, really. From what I've learned from them and what I've learned from other people. Because I've been doing it from such a young age.
Do they still give you input? Do they, do they, when you work on something?
Yeah, particularly like, particularly with writing and even, you know, in development of things and things like that. My sister wrote her first screenplay and wrote and directed it, and to great success. Yeah. And then she just wrote another one and she's directing it. It's this amazing thing.
So, and my mom is a big part of it, you know. You know, my sister sends me the script. She sends my mom the script. My mom and her, we'll talk through things. You know, she's a real mentor and that is a massive thing to have in your back pocket.
Yeah.
And do you find like, I think naturally any child is always looking to impress their parents when they're tiny. And then, as you grow older, you start to meet other adults. You become an adult yourself. But since you started with the entertainment industry and your parents were in it, do you find that they still occupy the major sort of North Star? you kind of point your efforts towards and look for their approval and their review of things?
Do you know what I mean? Like, I certainly do. I'm still sort of a small boy, kind of looking for dad's approval, because that's where it all started there. He taught me how to act. He taught me how to direct.
And I like that. I like that. I'm not over that.
Aren't we all? I mean, yeah, in one way or another, definitely. I think. also, though, there's a sense of just for me. now, you know, because there's all that stuff, like work is, so, it becomes like a big thing, you know, with all of our families.
You know, if our parents are working, like you hear about their work, right? It's just inevitable, right? The vocabulary becomes part of it. To me and me and my sister in particular, and my family. more and more, as all that stuff gets into your life and you're doing that, we tend to now try and just work on the family stuff, you know, because that's just like, to me, that's what I've grown to care about most.
You know, in the end, no matter what we all do and what we create, like, it all comes down to them being there, no matter what, right? They'll be there. Yeah.
And do you have other siblings? Is it just you and Maggie?
I have a little half-brother. I mean, he's a half-brother. He's also little. My dad had another child. And so, yeah.
And so, but he's my half-brother. He's my sister's half-brother. And, but my sister and I, you know, grew up together. Just like, yeah.
And then what about? like, you and Maggie, you've had, I'm assuming, a very positive experience of being in this business. And you've been able to transition from child actor into adult actor, and incredibly successful, both of you.
Do you imagine that you would be supportive of your children going into this? Because I get this question all the time. My answer is always, yeah. I mean, I can't be hypocritical. I've had a great experience and it's been challenging, but it hasn't been detrimental or damaging.
I would just make sure that I would condition my child, or explain to my child what to look out for and what to not, and what it is and what it isn't. And just manage their expectations. And then after that, let them make their own decision. But I mean, at 10 years old, which I was, and I think you were right around the same age, can you really assess all of the pitfalls such that you make a good decision? I don't know.
I mean, I think I would, my parents did a very smart thing, which is they were like, you need to get an education. They were very early on, they were like, I was like, I just want to do this thing. And they were like, okay, cool, great. You can keep doing that, but you don't need to do it in the deep end, right?
Yeah, or in lieu of, yeah.
Yeah, exactly. And socializing was a huge thing. Go be amongst kids who are tough on you, you know what I mean? Not just in an adult world.
Yeah, if you can balance it, if you can handle it, go for it, yeah.
Exactly, and then, yeah.
No, go ahead.
No, I just, to me, that's what I would do. I think we can admit it's not a normal life in that way, and so it's just important to get perspective.
And I read that you, when you were a kid, you also used to volunteer at a homeless shelter and you celebrated your 13th birthday at one.
Wow, is that true? My mother's Jewish, my father's Christian, and so they're not practicing very heavily, but they, and so they had a bit of a dilemma in my bar mitzvah moment, quinceanera sort of situation. They didn't know really how to celebrate. Wait a second.
You went to combo bar mitzvah, quinceanera?
No, no.
At a homeless shelter? So you got a deal on the venue. Basically.
A deal, a real deal.
Everybody showed up too. No, but it was, yeah. And so one of the things was they were like, you know, my father was very big about passages, you know, like, and that's what it was. They agreed that there was like, it is a passage of time and you were walking through this space, and these are the qualities that, you know, they wanted me to understand. And so they decided, instead of something more formal, like we do all these different things, and one of them was, yeah, we went to a homeless shelter on my birthday and fed the homeless, yeah.
Wow. So it sounds like they started you out with just a great set of values, a decent or a great guide in which to sort of be a decent person. And you seem to have really held onto that. I mean, you know, you're just a really kind person and you've managed to acquire a great deal of success. Is it, you know, we're in such a permissive culture and atmosphere with what we do.
Is it a constant, how much of a struggle is it for you to not take advantage of all the sort of latitude of people like yourself are given on set, off of set? Do you know what I mean? Because it's, I don't know, did they raise you well enough where it's not that much of a battle?
I mean, I'm obsessed with my work. I love my work, right? And I dig into the characters. that I do, do you know? And so that's sort of where I, like to me inside that learning, it has been, that's like learning how to be an actor is a different thing, right?
Like I don't think my parents were, they were not actors, right? So it's a completely different scenario.
They were teaching you how to be a good person, not a good actor, yeah?
Right, I mean, they were sort of teaching, I mean, they were, you know, they were like learn, great, read, great plays, you know, try and perform them. So you can understand what they were doing.
Prepping you for life in the arts.
Yeah, kind of. I mean, for whatever I wanted, really, whatever I felt they were down for. But I think, like, you know, yeah, I think that's always the question, right? Like we grow up in it. And when we grow up in it, it's a different thing.
There are people who come into the business and they're, you know, they've experienced life and they experience success at a different age. And it's very interesting to watch people experience success at different ages. And I was so grateful to experience it very early, but at the same time, it came with its own kind of growing up throughout the whole process, right?
I just watched City Slickers the other night. I swear to God, I just watched it. And I was like, is that Jake Gyllenhaal? You were like five? How old were you in that?
I was 11.
And you can totally tell it's you. I never noticed that before. I was like, oh my God, Jake Gyllenhaal.
Were you like Billy Crystal's son?
I was Billy Crystal's son.
No way, really?
And really, Billy, like, yeah, he like, found me and he was like, there's something about this kid. I mean, I have a poster that still says, he signed a poster for me, for City Slickers poster. And it says, thanks for letting me be in your first movie. Like. he literally wrote that.
No way. That's cool.
Oh, that's great.
It was so cool. It's the best poster ever. And he is the fucking best.
Yeah, he's such a nice man.
Oh, such a nice man. And like, I worship him. It is very interesting.
Who directed that? Was that?
Ron Underwood.
Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ron Underwood. Who is Ron Underwood?
I don't know that guy. He directed City Slickers.
And then I love this. You were cast in Mighty Ducks, but you couldn't take it, right? Or your parents didn't let you take it?
You know, like, when people ask you guys like, oh, did you, you got that part, but you didn't do that part? Like, and then you're like, why am I? Someone else did it. It's theirs. This is weird.
But, and that's a story that it's like, yeah, I almost did the part that I'm never going to do. And you're, and someone else did better than me. So I don't, why are we doing? But I, yeah, I was, I auditioned for it. And they let, my parents would let me audition for things.
And so like, without like being like, oh, sweet, Jake, he wants to go audition for cool. And then I like audition. I like, got it pretty much. And they were like, oh shit.
Right.
You have to go to school. And I was like, no, I want to learn hockey, you know? Yeah, by the way, Will, we have a lot to talk about that. Cause you should talk to my parents. I wanted to learn how to play hockey.
Oh, it's the best.
Where's your hockey passion now? Do you still have a hockey passion?
No, I wasn't allowed it. I didn't do Mighty Ducks. Um, but yeah, it was, that was a, that was a thing.
But a lot of the times that the, you know, a lot of the role like Jar had, God, you're so fucking good on that.
And he's done so many great movies.
Yeah. And, and all of these, you know, last year,
I just got to say, I wish you'd done fucking Mighty Ducks.
Sorry. I just think of what could have been.
I just think of what could have been. I messed up, I messed up.
But these roles in these big, huge movies that just seemed to me, like I could never do the things you do. They just seem like colossal undertakings as an actor. And the physicality that you take on is just remarkable. Like we were talking about at the beginning.
You're brilliant, Sean.
Thank you. I was waiting for that. We got it. He said it.
But we do prefer a nice sitcom routine. You know, it's six hours a day.
You and I have sung together, by the way. That's the thing.
I know.
I mean, wait, where'd you guys sing? Where?
We sang at the Tony's, A Whole New World. No way. It was an arranged marriage, wasn't it?
Do you have theater stories?
God, if you have a theater story right now, Jake.
Jake, my favorite thing is medical stories and theater stories.
Do I gotta say, I listen to you guys. And I just want to say that I have a great losing, a contact story. Here we go. And I was like, oh, what the fuck? That was my, when I'm on that, that was my fucking story.
Yeah, yeah. Sean, get Scotty in here.
Like, yeah, I thought, oh, that's my part. She stole my part, you know?
We'll be right back.
And now back to the show.
So there you are, you're on stage. What happened?
I'm on stage. And so I did this show with Ruth Wilson called Constellations, which is this amazing show, two-hander. It's 75 scenes and 90 minutes, basically like, and the changes of scenes. It's about a couple and it's a bit like sliding doors-ish, but it's about, they're basically five scenes that happen over a couple's relationship. And within the five scenes, they're like eight scenes of the two-hander.
And there's different potential things that could happen, right? So first they meet, and then one of them's not into the other, and the other one is, and then boom, the lights change. And then the other one, who wasn't into the other, is into the other. You know, so it switches. Then they're both into each into each other.
The next one, then neither of them are into each other. And then it moves forward, right? And so subsequently, actually, there gets to him asking her to marry him.
And I had in tech, you know, like-.
The final rehearsals, right? The final rehearsals.
For Tracy, yeah.
I had said basically like, okay, we had one prop in the whole show. It's just two people on stage. We never left this platform, right? It was 90 minutes, never left. There was one prop, and the prop was a ring in my pocket that I kept.
And he had to prep all this stuff. And I said to the stage manager, I said, can I just put some contact lenses under the stage in the back? Because I just, I really am legal. I'm legally blind without contact lenses. Like I, no, no, I am legally blind.
Like I, I cannot, I can't like function.
Your contact's in right now?
No, I, you guys, but you guys look great. I, I, so I, yeah.
I would be deeply offended if we were making love right now, and I found out you didn't have your contacts in.
He didn't even bother. Okay. He didn't even bother putting his fucking contact lenses for us. Yeah, he's like, whatever, dude.
No, like, so I, just like, you know, actually it, at the same time, I like, I had gotten into a little thing with, with Ruth early on, because my brother-in-law, who's an amazing actor, by the way, he, he came to see me in previews and he gave me notes. And he gave me two notes. One note was, he was like, still, there's power in stillness. Because I think I was moving around a lot and trying to get a lot of attention. And the next note was, don't let her upstage you.
That's what he said. She kept walking upstage, huh?
No, I mean, I think he actually meant like, she's just a better actor than you. So just try harder and figure it out, because she is a better actor than me. I learned that over the course of the run.
Because, Tracy, if an actor walks upstage, it forces you to turn your back to the audience to talk to that person. And now the audience can't see your face. They can only see the person on stage's face.
And she does, she's, she's just magical. Like, she's just the type of actor that, like, I'd always talk about this. Saturday nights, you know, it's like, the energy is so much more intense. And Saturday nights, like, she would ride that energy like a wave. And I'd be like, oh, it's so intense.
And she'd be like, see, ya! You know, and they'd be like, the roof is incredible! So he was like, just don't, try not to let her do that. Like, try and surf. Don't be afraid, you know?
And so we had gotten into a thing where, like, I was like, uh, I was like, I feel like you're upstaging me. She was like, I'm not. I'm just like, you know, the actor bullshit. She's like, I'm not. What are you talking about?
And I'm like, but like, can we just try and stay on the same line? Like, you know, like, because this is about us, you know? And it was like, hold on. So anyway, I, the light changes, by the way, these big pops in the show. So you have about like, a second and a quarter to kind of change, right?
And at the same time that I, in the, it's very hard to explain. Because I would put my hand in my pocket in the scene before I'm supposed to ask her to marry me, because I pull out the ring and no one's seen a prop. And so they go, oh, how'd you get that ring? Right?
Right.
I put my hands in my pockets and the ring was not in my pockets.
Check.
So I was like, it's the only prop. By the way, in tech, they were, I was like, what if we, okay, I have contact lenses up there, but what if, like, I don't have the problem. They're like, dude, this is Broadway. We have a prop master usually deals with a thousand props. He has one prop.
Okay. So, don't worry. You're going to have your prop. Okay. Don't worry.
I was like, I know, but like, if, like, they're like, just, and I was like, can I just plead like crazy? Sure. And they put it there. So I, I rub, I rub my eye, contact lens falls out in the scene. I put my hand into my pocket.
I can't find a fucking ring. And I'm like, oh my God, I can't see anything. And then Ruth, and then I start to move upstage. Cause. I remember there's a contact lens in there and the ring is over there.
And Ruth starts looking at me like, oh, you, motherfucker. I know what you're doing. You're going upstage.
You asshole.
I was like, I was like, no, I can't see anything like trying to communicate.
And she thinks you were just winking at her.
And then, as soon as I like, boom, lights, pop, I run over, grab the contact lenses, grab the thing. And I am, I put the contact lens in my eye. Cause I can do it. Cause I've been putting contact lens in my eye since I was a kid, like really, really young. And then she was like, oh, oh, my God.
Like she realized in the moment.
Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. I used to, I used to do this thing, and, um, promises, promises that there's this guy, his name's, um, thank you so much.
By the way, beautiful, beautiful, incredible.
His name's Ryan. And we would give each other horrible, horrible shit. Like right before we'd enter the stage, it's kind of like the three of us do, just like scathing. Right. And he's like, and he goes, I'm actually dead serious before tonight.
Can you change? Can you make sure that during this one dance sequence, you, um, cause you're, you're blocking, you're just blocking me. Just ever. So I go, Ryan, I'm going to stop you. I never looked behind me on stage.
No, Jake, if you're not acting, if you're not, um, you know, uh, exercising, being physical, um, what else are you doing to fill your time? What is what you don't have any, like, are you a reader? Are you a TV watcher? Are you a painter? Um, do you love to knit?
You know, what? are you knitting?
I'm going to get my mom in here in a second. Cause. she's mad that you guys still haven't sent her a picture with the fucking sweaters. I did.
Would you tell her to check a junk file?
I collect shoe horns actually, which is, yeah, by the way. Oh my God.
Oh, my God.
You have no odd, uh, I cook a lot.
I cook. I cook major.
Yeah. I want to talk about cooking. I didn't know you cook.
Yeah.
But you're not cooking fatty shit. You, you're good at cooking like veggie stuff or, or macrobiotic or something.
I mean, I cook everything. I love to cook. I, I love to, I love to shop for food.
Then you eat what you want. You just make sure that you exercise a lot.
No, I mean, no, I I've actually, you know, I've tried all different things. I don't like, I, I'm down with intermittent fasting. I really liked that as an idea, because I tend to go like, I'm going to just overeat, you know? So instead I just go, we're just not going to eat today for a while.
It's all or nothing.
Are you sweet? Are you sweet tooth or salty? What's your.
I. ultimately, I think I'm a sweet tooth. Yeah. I just like, I'm a cake. I like cake.
I love cake.
I got a pie guy.
Do you guys know? Yossi Arefi, by the way?
No, no.
Her cookbooks. Her, she is this book called, I'm like, this is a shameless plug on, on her book, but it is incredible.
Yeah.
It's called Snacking Cakes.
Snacking Cakes.
Yeah. And there's also this lemon cake that she makes, that has pieces, that the recipe has pieces of the lemon in it. Right. So it's like, I don't know if you like a lemon cake.
Love. I do. I don't want to, I don't want to eat a piece of lemon though.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You chop, it's small, it's in little pieces, but you get like this sort of burst of citrus, so to speak. And like, you really do know, it's like the, like, I'm a sucker for glazes like that.
Would you be into that, Sean? You think you might be into a cake?
I love, like a lemon pound cake.
Garbage can.
No, I love that, though. I got an ice cream maker for Christmas. And I like,
Well, he wanted to cut out the middleman.
He was too much with the fucking, tired of driving to the ice cream shop.
Get out of the store.
I'd rather just cry and make it while I cry, you know, like I just.
By this time next year, he's going to figure out how to make ice cream in his mouth.
Okay, wait, wait a minute. I want to talk about Roadhouse, because it comes out March 21st. I'm primed, which is really exciting. Wait, were you nervous to remake such a classic film? Because, you know, Patrick Swayze, we all love Patrick Swayze.
I'm sure you're going to kill it, but were you nervous?
I mean, I knew Patrick Swayze was in Donnie Darko, this film. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, he's like. Donnie Darko.
Can we, can. I also just say, before you get. Yeah. Nightcrawler. I don't know why.
I just, it just occurred to me. I remember, I just remembered how much I fucking love that movie, dude.
All your movies.
So great. It was such a good movie.
So good. Didn't Bob Elswitch shoot that?
He did. Yeah.
He's, he's, he's a buddy of yours. I've. the one time I've ever been in a room with him was at your house at a birthday party that you had. And I saw him walking around. I was like, what the fuck is going on?
Dude.
He's a cinematographer, everybody. And he's, he's, he's a, he's a, he's a God.
That movie's a fucking masterpiece. So anyway, so you're doing.
I love that movie too, but Roadhouse.
So you, so you worked with Swayze.
We worked with Swayze. In Donnie Darko. He was just the sweetest, most generous, kindest man. I was like, when we worked together and I, Point Break was a movie that I watched. maybe like, maybe I've watched that movie more than any movie I've ever watched.
If I'm, if I'm honest. Cause I reacted in so many hours from like nine years old to like, admittedly, 43, uh, that I just love that movie. So I, I, you know, and I love a lot of his movies and Roadhouse. I remember these faint memories of the poster and I don't know where I remember seeing it. And then I also remember watching clips of it, or it was on TV and being like, what is this?
Like? I, like it is, it's like ingrained in my unconscious, this, this movie. And so, like Doug Lyman, who's a good friend of mine. We've been friends for 20 years.
Brilliant.
And he was like, we've been trying to find a movie for a long time to do together. And he was like, uh, we were talking one night, cause we were talking about one other movie that he had sent me. We're talking about it. I mean, that's interesting. And then he's like, you know, I do have this other idea.
They just sent me this script of Roadhouse. It's like a re-imagining of it. And I was like, I'm fucking in. I literally, I literally was, I literally, he said, and I like, I, it was like the, whoever saw those clips, whoever just came out of me. Like, I mean, wow.
And, uh, and so, um, I mean, you, you, you've built, you've filmed an actual fight with a live audience.
I went to the UFC to film. Yeah. We went to the UFC and I filmed in the Octagon. Uh, it was crazy. Yeah.
It was so fun. It was so incredible. It was incredible. They let us film there. The UFC was amazing.
We like, it was nuts. I was like high from it for four days after.
Would you say that you were, you got into the best sort of cardiovascular shape you've ever been in through, through grappling? Cause, like, I mean, you think you're in shape until you start wrestling with, with, with someone like, it's like, it's crazy how tired you get, right?
Try wrestling with Conor McGregor.
I was just going to say, I can't believe, cause this is his first acting gig.
Yeah, it is. Yeah. It's his first night. I mean, it depends on how much you consider the performance pre fight, but yes, this is his first acting gig, professional. Wow.
That's pretty wild.
How was that process? shooting it in front of those, those crowds? I gotta say like that mixed martial arts makes me nervous sometimes. Not just the, just the crowds. It's, it's a little.
Yeah. They want blood. It's like, it's like the Coliseum back in the old days.
Yeah. It's like a little bit of Coliseum, but it's just like, it always makes me nervous. Like cause, there's like, there's, there's a, there's blood lust, right? Like, like people are out there to really literally get on the canvas.
And, like, you know, we were right before, you know, the, the, the main cards.
Prelims.
Yeah. So it was like post prelims is pre pay-per-view that we were told we were going to get either get like 45 seconds or seven minutes. We didn't know. Cause, depending on how the earlier fights went, if they went all the way, if they finished in the first 30 seconds, like that would accumulate our time. Right.
So they wouldn't give, guarantee us anything. So, but by the time we got there, there had been some really, really intense fights and I walked up onto the canvas and there was just so much blood on the mat. Are you kidding me?
They don't clean it.
No, it's canvas.
Did you, could you wear slippers during the.
Oh yeah. Don't worry. I wore condoms.
Yeah. There we go.
No, I, I, it was, it's really actually going to go wash his hands.
One of the things they don't tell you about, Jason, is that, you know, in grappling in particular, and mixed martial arts, you know, staff is like a big thing. And so, because, like, there's just, everybody's grappling on these mats. Right. And actually, when we were shooting, when we were shooting Roadhouse, I got staff. Yeah.
We were shooting and my arm, like, blew up and I was like, what is this? I didn't know what it was. And I, here we go, Sean, here's a medical story. Yeah. I love it.
And, and I, I thought it was because this big, there's a big final fight between me and Conor McGregor in it. And Conor is amazing. I mean, he's amazing. And he coached me through a lot of our fights. Right.
He was like, he came in, he was like, I'm a white belt in this. This movie world's acting world. I'm here to learn from you. I was like, it was such humility. I said, well, I'm obviously less than a white belt in your world.
So, like, you, tell me what you want me to do. Yeah. No, every time we have to, we'd have to say to Conor, like I'd, they'd be like, we're rolling. Okay. Marker.
And then it'd be like, I'd have to say, remember, even two months into shooting, remember, don't hit me in the face. Like, remember that. And he'd be like, oh yeah, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. It was that every time before every take. Yeah.
Moneymaker, moneymaker. Was the crowd aware that you guys were shooting a movie and were told to like, just kind of cheer this fight on like you would.
No, not all of them. Because some people were like, well, what they started to do is they picked up on us filming and then they realized that there was like kind of a good guy and a bad guy in the fight. And then they started cheering when, like, I would throw a punch and they'd be like, they'd be like, yeah. And then it was like 15,000 people.
Oh, nice.
Cheering for this thing.
And that was accurate for the story? Like you, were the good guy?
They had no idea. Yeah.
They had no idea.
Wow. Where was it?
We were in Vegas. It was 285.. I didn't, I was supposed to do 283 and then I got the night before, got COVID and we had the whole crew ready to go. And so we had to wait.
What's 285?
It's the number of fights.
Oh, wow. Wow. And did you get hurt at all?
During the filming?
Yeah.
The staph infection.
All the time. Well, yeah. The staph infection. in the end, I didn't know it was staph infection. And I woke up and I was like, this, my elbow feels weird.
I thought it was just because I had grabbed Connor like 30 times in this one moment. And I thought, oh, he just, he was just throwing this arm down on me. I was grabbing it so hard that I thought it just hurt my elbow. So I woke up in the middle of the night and I couldn't touch my elbow to the bed sheet.
You know, Jay, you're so lucky you didn't get hurt. I mean, you so easily could have just like, something pop out, you know?
Yeah. I know.
I mean, Sean, you said one time at work, right? Didn't you say that you sprained your ankle? when you come out for curtain, call on Will & Grace?
By the way, sprained ankle is a real pain in the ass. It is. It's the worst.
You tripped on Shimada's camera as you were coming out?
Wait, Jake, you don't have to take those roles.
Yeah, you don't have to take those roles. I want you to get a nice sitcom or something.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
Like, what is the draw? Why do you, what is the wish, like the death wish? I would love to do a sitcom.
No one thinks I'm funny.
I would love to do a sitcom.
Everyone's like, he's so serious. This guy's so serious. He thinks I'm so serious. No, no, no. He like, does all this stuff.
Like, you know, I would love to do that. I'm doing this because this is what I got, guys.
No other options. Nowhere else to go.
Yeah. No, I just love, I love that, like, I love the idea.
You're great at it.
Yeah, well, you're so brilliant, you could do anything. You could just plug anything.
They came to me about Roadhouse too, by the way. I didn't want to say anything, because we were talking about roles. we didn't do. It was different. It was more about eating.
If I knew that you would have been in that movie, we would have had you.
I was up for roadkill. But anyway, Jake, this is wonderful that we took up way too much of your time. You're so sweet to come by.
Very nice to do this with us. I'm so psyched to be here.
I mean, I like, I am, I am, I have, I love your show. I am such a huge fan. I obviously, like, adore you all from afar and, like, close up.
Likewise, likewise.
I invite you places you don't come. Well, I've literally invited you now, so if you don't come, you know, then you're the same.
I'm coming with the e-bike option to attest to my heart.
Are you kidding me? I'm fucking stoked.
And Jake, you'll come over. I'll make ice cream and we'll sing.
Yes, by the way, can we please do that?
Yeah, I'd love to watch that.
Please, Sean, really.
I would totally love to do that.
Okay.
Jake, thank you, buddy. All right, I love you, Jake. Thanks, guys.
Love you guys too. Bye, pal.
Bye.
That was nice to revisit with my old friend.
I love him so much.
She should have been my guest. So weird how that always works on our show, right? It's like, oftentimes, the person, the guest, the person who knows the guest the best, usually is not the host. That's right. It's odd how that works.
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