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Gotta figure that out. Check this interview out. You're gonna love it. A really good friend to liberty and freedom.
Kirk Cameron Kirk, thanks for joining us.
We appreciate it.
Dan, how great to be on your show. thank you for having me on and you're a hero to so many. And it's just it's way cool to think that you used to watch Growing Pains back in the day.
KIRK I gotta tell you, man, I was addicted to the show. So much. So that we have the goofy glue incident from your show has become a thing on our show. That's how often I watch that show. No one can explain the goofy glue incident. Do you remember that the goofy glue incident?
Because I use it on my show and we don't know what it is. What was the goofy glue incident?
You don't want to know. That's why we never talk about it.
That's how bad it is.
That's how bad it is. I love this guy.
No one talks, no one talks about the goofy glue incident.
It's like Fight Club Kirk.
In fact, in fact, those three words should rarely even be uttered. Goofy glue incident. I've said it more now in the last minute than I have in the last 30 years, and there's good reason for that.
I'll have to discuss it with you. You sound afraid off the air. Jimmy sounds afraid, like, Okay, Kirk, you got me a little scared.
We got to follow this up with a personal conversation. Kirk's the author of a book, Pride comes before the fall. Pick it up today. Wherever you get the books, I'm going to talk about it.
Wherever you get your books, I'm going to talk about that in a second. But Kirk, just before we get started, you.
Know what?
I was about, I don't know, 42, 43 before I got any degree of public notoriety where people would recognize you kind of out in public. And I didn't really hit kind of. I never got to anywhere near your level.
You were just all over on magazines and all this other stuff.
But I have to tell you, even at 40 it gets corrupting and you have to, you know this better than anyone. You have to constantly tell yourself, don't be a jerk, you're a child of God, and act like it and do the right thing.
You were famous, I mean, super famous, at a very early age. Where I think you'd admit you probably don't have all the tools you'd have in adulthood. How did that impact you? Did you find it as corrupting as I did?
Well, it's interesting. It was the only normal life I had, I didn't have another, more normal teenage life to compare it to, so I just had to roll with it. You know, I was so young when I was on growing pains, I was 14..
I had barely grown a bicep at that point and they were putting me in tank tops as sort of like teen hunk. Centerfold in these magazines like Tiger Beat, right? I mean, I don't even think I had hair on my upper lip yet. But, you know, I was surrounded by some good people and it was a good, wholesome show. And, interestingly, you talk about Child of God. I was an atheist at the time, and so my moral standards weren't something that I downloaded from heaven or anything like that. But when the fame started at such a young age, I thought it was strange, I didn't really understand it. But then eventually I came to kind of appreciate the fact that. We were a bit of an example to families and to young kids who were sort of looking up to us as role models. And I wanted to do right by that, and so I tried to live a life. That would, you know, teach kids to say no to drugs and to just say no campaign. Back in the 80s, you might remember that. And then eventually, I sort of pulled my head out of the sand of atheism. And I started to look around and thought, You know what?
I'm not as smart as I think I am, and I believe that we're all here for a reason and that this is an incredible design. And I wanted to live my life in a way that said, Thank you for all of that.
Wow, Kirk, you know, that's just you're blowing me away.
I'm just so not used to hearing this from people who grew up in the entertainment Hollywood community.
It's just so rare.
Why aren't there more like you who think like that?
Well, but what I just told you is not nearly as crazy as the goofy glue incident. But we can't talk about that right now.
Yes, that's a good point.
I think there probably are some more here in Hollywood, in fact, I know there are, and I mean, Hollywood proper. We've got the entertainment industry, which stretches everywhere now, because anybody can pull out a camera and have an Instagram account and you can make a documentary. But there are people here, I think many of them are understandably afraid to poke their head out from their turtle shell. And while some people are coming out of the closet in different ways, we've got conservatives and Christians who are hiding in the closet. Because, you know, they got a target on them and so they want to keep their head down.
Yeah, I get that, Kirk, but we're talking to Kirk Cameron, author of the new book. Pride Comes Before the fall.
I promise you, we're going to get to that, folks.
But Kirk, what I don't get is, you know, Jesus told his apostles, go forth with nothing, right? They knew they'd be killed.
Peter was hung upside down. They were poisoned, they were attacked, stoned, beheaded, basically violently beaten over and over again.
You know, and I think to myself, and I think you probably think too, like, we've led pretty easy lives. I mean, if the worst that's going to happen to me and you is that somebody goes, Oh, look.
At these clowny Jesus lover guys.
That's nothing like you're not going to be hung upside down, no one's going to stone you in public. And that's why, Kirk, when I hear guys like you, it's so refreshing.
But that's why I'm so disappointed in other people with a platform like yours. Famous people in Hollywood and sports who don't come out. When the Dodgers celebrate this vile group insulting Christianity and say, You know what? I'm not going to be martyred for this. I'm no hero, but I'm not tolerating this today. I'm not playing today's game, I'm sorry.
There should be more of you.
Well, well, you don't know my dark side, so I don't know how many more of me you want in the world. But Dan, I appreciate you. You're a man of faith and character and courage. I mean, that's an understatement, and we're so grateful for you.
And listen, I think that there just becomes. There comes a time in every man or every woman's life where you need to reconcile with God. About who you are and whose you are and why you're here. And for me, that that that really kicked into overdrive. When I had kids, my wife and I have six children, our kids are now grown.
And because of my understanding of where we're headed culturally, and you know, I'm. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but we've kind of learned over the last few years that the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is about six months.
Exactly.
And if you look at, and if you look at history, what's happening in our country is is is really the beginning stages of a cultural revolution. Not unlike what we see with the Chinese Communist Revolution or the Bolshevik revolution, what we see in Cuba and other authoritarian dictatorships or communist regimes. And my Taiwanese neighbors can tell me that my Jewish neighbors up the street and my Cuban neighbors tell me that. They feel like they're watching a bad movie that they've seen before and they know how it ends, and it's not pretty. That's why they came to America, and they're dumbfounded how Americans can be so blind to the signs of what's going on.
And I understand we grew up in the 70s and 80s, we had such a beautiful time of peace and freedom.
It was wasn't a great yet it was.
It was so you're growing pains and all these shows.
Yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead.
That's right, we never talked about the goofy glue incident. We had our jeans and we listened to Prince with our mullet hairstyles. But now we see what's been underway. We've seen that we have not been tending the garden, and the weeds are now growing up, and the gophers are infiltrating everywhere.
The family, the church and civil government. And thank God for guys like you. And when more of us do what you have done, and that is, get on the front line, stop being on the defense. Don't sit on the couch and watch your favorite news outlet. Putting your face in your hands, crying in your chick-fil-a soup, waiting for somebody else to rescue you and say, Wait a minute. God put me here to do something and I can't do everything, but I can do my part. And I'm just trying to make the most of this opportunity to stand for faith and stand for virtue and character. And one way I'm trying to do it is by reading children's books about faith, hope and love and humility. And say, Down with pride, down with authoritarian government, and up with loving God, loving your family and loving your country.
Well, this is the perfect time to transition to the book, because your book. We're talking to Kirk Cameron, you know him. Famous actor Kirk has a book out called Pride Comes Before the fall. Pick it up today wherever you get your books.
We got to support this man, his work.
KIRK Everybody in the library system run by liberals seems terrified of you. Reading this book to kids, I've noticed even developing special plans about it's crazy, like there's a battle plan to keep you out of libraries from reading this book to kids. What are they so afraid of?
That's in this book.
Yeah, well, this reads like a just like a crazy story. Last Christmas, I wrote a little book called As You Grow. And I wanted to do a public library Story Hour, and I was denied by over 50 woke libraries that previously held Drag Queen Story hours. When I confronted them and threatened to assert my constitutional rights for their viewpoint discrimination in a public library, they reversed course. We went to Indianapolis Public Library and were greeted by over 3000 parents and children. Overwhelming six floors of the library, singing songs in between the book aisles and holding their own reading times because they couldn't all fit inside the reading room.
So this has happened in Loudoun County. We went to San Francisco, we went to D..C. New York, L..A. Arizona. But now it seems that we've awoken the balrogs deep within the American Library Association. We had recently just broke the story that the director of the Office of Intellectual Freedom, ironically, is censoring and sabotaging a nationwide event that we have started.
It's going to be on August 5th called See you at the Library, it's it's our take on See you at the poll. Where families would gather at flagpoles of schools to pray, this is families gathering at public libraries to read a book of virtue for their children. And they have come unglued, and now they're actively teaching librarians how to break the law. And either pretend like the library is not open that day, or that the library is full of made up events. So that there's no room for families who want to show up at their own libraries to read books to.
Their kids.
KIRK I got about a minute left and I got to run. But my experience with this?
Being a tech entrepreneur, and specifically the free speech space, is every effort they.
Make to put their thumb on your neck and shut you up is only going to magnify your.
Message I think 3000 people at the library in your experience confirms that, correct.
Yes, and I would encourage everyone to join us. Go to Bravebooks..com. you can get my book Pride Comes Before the Fall for free. And click on the See You at the Library tab. And we'll show you how to host a brave story hour at your library. And send a message to the Balrogs that good wins over evil.
Folks, let's do that today, please.
I don't ask a lot of favors. I have no economic interest in this at all. I only have a passion for the cause and this man is with us. Bravebooks..com click on the book Pride Comes Before the Fall and find out how to host an event in a town near you. Please, in the name of God.
And I'm not using his name in vain. This country's worth saving and we're the leaders we've been waiting for. Don't wait for someone else to do it, you do it, you can do it.
KIRk, Thanks so much for your time. you're welcome back here anytime. I wish we could have connected earlier, but it was so worth it. And really, you have my absolute admiration for standing up. When you could have just easily punked out and been like one of these other guys and said all the talking points, you didn't.
You stood up in the name of God and faith in this country, and I know my listeners respect you for it, so thanks a lot.
Well, I appreciate you, thank you so much. There's many of us who want to draw a line in the sand and you're giving us the red chalk to do it. So thank you Dan, keep it up.
Thanks a lot.
You got it, Kirk Cameron folks, you all know now, that's. That's what a real American patriot looks like. Could have taken the company line, thrown out all the pride flags and gave all the talking points. And probably be worth billions of dollars making Marvel movies right now. Instead, he took the path of dignity, faith and hope.
And now it's up to us to support him. Bravebooks.com Pride comes before the fall. Click on that host one of these see you at the library.
I'm asking you as a favor, do one in my town. I'm in Martin County, Florida. I'll see you there up next, Dr.
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He actually had some really good news. Pay attention to this, OK, folks. So with all the controversy right now with Dr. Peter Hotez and should he debate on Joe Rogan, RFK Jr. wanted to debate him.
You've heard the story and all this stuff about the vaccine and wanting to debate the vaccine. I like a source of truth, a guy I've always trusted. He's been a guest on my podcast, on my Fox show when I was there. Just a really great all around guy, wanted to have him back on the radio show for you, Dr.
PETER McCULLOuGH Doc, welcome back to the show. appreciate you coming on. thanks for having me, of course.
So Doc, listen, I'm worried. I just want to be candid with you. I'm worried I took the vaccine, two doses of Pfizer. I've been terrified about it ever since I took it early on.
You know the story I've told you before, I had lymphoma at the time. Got scared, whatever, we'll save that for another day, but I'm scared.
And a lot of my listeners are, too. They're sending me questions for you, tons of them. And the first question is, there's some new data that came out in this?
ScienceDirect.
Com, And they're saying that the risk of myocarditis for teens was no higher than other vaccinations.
And it was actually significantly higher in teens 12 to 17 after Covid than after the vaccine. Well, what do you make of this?
Is this is this? Is this a robust study we should be looking at?
Well, let me get to that in a minute. Let's just address your situation, Dan, since the last time I talked to you, a really critical paper was published, and the first author is Schmeling and colleagues from Denmark. They had all the Pfizer Administration data and all the side effects.
They figured out that there are three risk groups for the lots, the batches of vaccines that come from the companies, and the first group. About a third of people, they have zero side effects, zero, I mean, none, another two thirds.
They have some moderate side effects, like a sore arm for a day or two, and then nothing happens after that. And then, sadly, there's a third group 4.2. Of all doses, the side effects are through the roof myocarditis, blood clots, stroke, immediate death.
So what we've learned is, you know, fortunately, you're probably in one of the groups where nothing's going to happen and it's because you got lucky. We think some of the batches basically got super loaded. With messenger RNA aggregation of lipid nanoparticles, it could have been contaminated with CDNA or other contaminants. They're not inspected by the companies under EUA.
There's no inspections for quality, purity or safety. So I think that's importantly important to know. With myocarditis, I have to tell you, Dan, I'm a cardiologist, I'm seeing this every day in the office.
There's over 200 peer reviewed publications on it. And the bottom line is COVID-19 vaccine causes more myocarditis than anything we've ever seen. It blows away other vaccines with COvid-19. Before the vaccines, it was just a handful of cases, no serious cases.
Now there are fatal COVID-19 vaccine myocarditis all over the place. Recent paper by Cho and colleagues from Korea 481 cases. Dan. 21 of these kids died despite full life support.
Doc I mean, I trust you on this because I don't understand.
What you would be getting out of this?
You were a world renowned, respected doctor in your space.
You've taken nothing but incoming from the start, people have just harassed you, they've tried to ban you, shut you up. I don't get what you've gotten out of this and the people who attack you. This is, you have no incentive to not toe the company line here, other than the truth.
So for people who listen to you and respect you, like me in the audience, if you are in that third, say that third, that is going to suffer.
Some significant side effect from this vaccine mRNA vaccine doc. Is there anything they can do? There's all kinds of stuff on the internet about Natakinase.
And lumbrakinase and baby aspirins. I mean, I know you're not talking to just in generalities, your thoughts on that.
Right, so let me get it clear, Dan. There is a high risk group, but it's not a third. It's only four point, two percent, it's only four point, two percent.
So, you know, there's a third where nothing happens. It's like my mother in law, she took two shots, she's 90 years old, she didn't even feel it.
To this day, she goes, she doesn't know what the big deal is because it's so benign and two thirds have some mild side effects. It's four point, two percent, this tiny fraction, where the action is. But what we've learned is there are some risk mitigation strategies.
We can't make any therapeutic claims, but really, really good preclinical data from Japan. This spike protein that gets installed with the vaccines and with Covid, the body can't clear it out itself. The body doesn't have its own degregative enzymes. Because the spike protein is actually genetically engineered to be resistant. It was engineered in the Wuhan Lab in China. That's what was found out in the investigations.
So the Japanese have figured out that an enzyme called Natto kinase, which is derived from the fermentation of soy with a bacteria called Bacillus subtilis natto. It has health benefits anyway, it's been used over a thousand years, the Japanese have eaten it for about 20 years, they use it as a cardiovascular supplement.
It's a mild blood thinner, but it reliably dissolves the spike protein. This is very encouraging. We're seeing patients now start to get better with neuropathy and a variety of problems blood clots in about three months of use, so this is great news. Another natural substance called bromelain.
It's also an enzyme derived from the stems of pineapples. It's available over the counter in preclinical studies. Again, it partially dissolves the spike protein. Then, a recent randomized trial using curcumin also had very positive effects on people who have had Covid and have taken the vaccine. Isn't it interesting that the natural products we're finding useful against such an unnatural protein?
The Doc That's fantastic news because my elixir before I come on the air is black tea. I put a little field of greens, a vegetable supplement, I put this dose curcumin Dandelion product in there.
With my Natto Kinase, my fish oil and my quercetin and bromelain. And I didn't even know that before. So it's just like the magic cocktail. You make me feel, doc. I was very worried before this conversation. I'm feeling a lot better now.
But another question I get from people, say, again and thank you for the correction, you're in that four percent group.
God forbid that you, you've had a significant problem with the mRNA vaccine.
If the damage occurs to the heart tissue, that's permanent, right?
I mean, you may not be, it may not be deadly, but that that's not going to fix it.
No, not true, Dan. We're studying in children now. And there was a paper years before Covid by German investigator Bruckman and colleagues. As long as it's not a heart attack due to decreased blood flow, the heart can recover the damage that occurs after various things. So we're following this.
Now here's the issue. Jenna Shower, who's a researcher, has published two papers in the journal Pediatrics. The kids are sustaining such large areas of damage. What she's reporting is they're not all returning to normal. We're talking anything more than 15 percent of the left ventricles, a big area.
Now there's a recent paper from Yale out showing MRIS. About a year later, about 20 percent are back to normal, but 80 percent still show some damage. So I have to tell you in this 4.2 percent myocarditis, heart attack, stroke, blood clots, they need to see a cardiologist, and they need advanced prescription treatment.
We're talking to Dr. Peter McCullough, a terrific guy, a man who is a truth teller, world renowned cardiologist, and a guy I trust on this topic. Doc. Another question I got during the break and it lit up when I told people you were coming on. I used to get 10, 20 questions, I probably got 200..
One of them said Is there any value?
They do, they love you. Is there any value in the Troponin test, which would indicate some kind of a heart damage?
There is, in fact, it's buzzing on the internet right now. A paper from Basel, Switzerland. Christian Mueller, who's a friend of mine, senior author. About 2.8 percent of nurses who took a booster had a rise in the blood troponin, indicating some micro heart damage, about 2.8 percent. Again, it fits with the same data from Schmeling. Yes, so we do use the troponin, the high sensitivity.
It is an acute test of heart damage, so when I see a kid for myocarditis, I order that, plus some other blood tests. EKG, Echo, MRI. We're able to figure it out, but again, it takes advanced testing to do it. What people need to know is that if they skip the shots, they don't have to go through all this.
Yeah, yeah, I wish I was in that boat, doc. Now. Another question I got again, which relates to me, I would have asked it myself. We're seeing some weird data on cancer developments, a cancer in the last few years. Now. Is that due to people not seeing physicians during the Covid lockdown?
The confounding variables in here are legion. We get that.
But is there any evidence out there you've seen in the papers?
You've reviewed connecting these mRNA vaccines to elevated rates of cancer.
As we sit here today, everyone agrees cancer rates are skyrocketing, that's for sure, everywhere in the world. But the issue is, what is it? Is it delayed in screening and detection during the lockdowns?
Or is it, or is it something new in the population, Covid or the vaccines? The jury's out, Dan, in the medical literature right now. So I'm not ready to call cancer risk. I do agree with the FDA, and the FDA says the vaccines cause myocarditis and heart damage.
They cause stroke and they cause blood clots and immunologic problems. That's bad enough, so I'm not ready to call cancer right now, but rates are up.
Yeah, you always call balls and strikes. Doc. We're talking to Dr. Peter McCullough.
Doc One more question I get I got two more, but one I get from the health.
Community, a health and fitness community. A lot of people wear these, these, these biomonitors, you know, Aura rings and Apple watches. I wear one myself. I'm, you know, I'm just obsessed with the thing, to be honest with you. And the HRV score, the heart rate variability score, has been a really big thing in the fitness community.
The higher the score, the better your heart's more resilient. I noticed after I took the vaccine and it may just be, I'm not saying it's, it's causal, may just be correlated. But I noticed my HRV score went down dramatically. I've actually spoken to you about this before, and that's kind of got kind of scared the hell out of me.
Is that have anything to do with it, or is that just apples and oranges?
No, that's a legit observation. Again, the vaccine influences the autonomic nervous system, sympathetic and parasympathetic. That's what governs the heart rate variability, and, in exaggerated cases, the vaccine victims. They incur a disease called Pots, where the blood pressure and heart rate is way out of regulation. So no, these, these monitors, Apple watches, Cardi have been very helpful to us.
I think anybody has any questions, they should use this and report to their doctor or cardiologist on it.
Yeah, yeah, good advice.
Last question, doc.
Talking to Dr. Peter McCullough, doctor The value of nutrition, obviously, is self-evident fruits and vegetables, healthy diet, lean meats, healthy fats. We all get that.
But for people out there who are concerned that they may have some heart damage, maybe from the vaccine, maybe from something different, maybe from both. We don't know the importance of things like selenium and these these essential minerals, you know, these are really critical. I mean, if you really feel you're worried, you should be extra hyper. Focused on a good exercise plan and solid nutrition, and getting those essential minerals in correct.
I agree, you know, when the heart muscles weaken, what we call cardiomyopathy. I routinely recommend additional supplements including selenium, L-carnitine, D-ribose, B vitamins, etc. so you can find these combination products. One with a company called the Wellness Company. I advise them there's a heart supplement that I basically helped, you know, guide them to put together.
It's what I recommend in my practice, anyway, it really matters. What we've learned is that the immune system is our first line of defense. And out of my sub stack today, Dan, Huge news on vitamin D. You know, people who have been taking vitamin D, they are protected against developing diabetes.
And if they achieve a high vitamin D level, there's like a 76 percent protection against developing diabetes. This is big news.
Doc You know what's crazy about that? Diabetes runs in my family, nearly everyone has had it. I have not neither type one or type two.
And I have been taking vitamin D and K2.
Since I'm about 18 years old, with a big glass of milk every day, so that's great news. Doc, the company you said about Hard product, the wellness company.
Where can I find company? Go to TWC Dot Health and you know, they're an alternative health care system, they offer nutraceuticals and supplements, they have telemedicine for everybody in the whole country.
A system of dental provision and and community pharmacies they treat Covid and long Covid vaccine injury system. They're really a breath of fresh air. They're available through a computer online system, a 24 by seven wellness company, to WC Dot Health.
Awesome doc. And check out Dr. Peter McCullough's substack. Follow him on social media. he's got over 800000 followers. It's for a reason.
Doc, thanks so much for your time. You're such a good man. Really appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
You got it, that's where I go and I want to know the truth, folks, and I don't want to spin calls, balls and strikes. He doesn't know, he says it.
It's not like Fauci and these others, when they don't know, they just guess.
Well, then they just lie, Oh, we told you to wear a mask and we were just messing with it.
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Here's North Carolina lieutenant governor and Republican Party superstar Mark Robinson. We talked to him about the rampant racism in the Democrat Party and also about his run for governor in North Carolina.
Check it out.
Man do I got a treat for you right now? Let's get right to it. This guy is just a real patriot, gives a speech like I'd argue no one in the country right now. If you haven't heard him speak or debate, you are missing out.
He is the current lieutenant governor of the Great State of North Carolina, where my father lives, and hopefully the next governor he is running for governor there. His name is Mark Robinson. I want to welcome him to the show.
Lieutenant Governor, thanks for joining us.
Hey Dan, good to be here again.
Always, always good to talk to you, always an honor. So, sir, I was doing a show on Monday, and the show I was doing Monday or Tuesday, forgive me, may have been Tuesday.
But I was just offended because during the break, my producer, Jim and I. We were discussing how the modern Democrat Party has become a home, an open home for racists, I mean, actual racists, people who talk to Black, Hispanic, and minority Americans as if they have some kind of deficiency. And I got to tell you, Lieutenant Governor, they kind of piss me off. And I know these issues were hot for you, so I'd like to address them one by one.
Things Democrats say to Black people and others and treat them like second class citizens and assume they just can't do so. The first one is this affirmative action case, where you hear people like Joy Reid insisting. Somehow that Black Americans who are no different other than the melanin content to their skin, and white Americans somehow can't get into elite colleges without some kind of assistance. I mean, that's a racist statement, you know, am I missing something?
No, you're not missing anything, Dan. You know these folks now, these leftists, they know that their main tactic to win. They know they can't win political arguments, they know they can't win social arguments. So what they do is they divide to conquer, and the main way they can divide to conquer is by continuing to preach. A narrative that creates victim of victimhood mentality, not a not a mentality of victory over obstacles, but a victimhood mentality. So everything they do is division, division, division, division.
It's always got to be so. It's not surprising that they do this. It's the same old playbook that we see time and time again with these would be despots and these left hardcore leftists.
We're talking to Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson, Sir, what's?
Your website, by the way.
People want to support you for governor, and I highly, highly recommend you do highly, and I mean, the highest possible.
Highly, this guy is a good man, this guy could be the president one day. You don't have to answer that, sir, I'm saying, in my opinion, what's your website?
It's Mark Robinson for N.C. That's Mark Robinson for NC.
Please folks, go to that website, bombard this man's website. Today's a good man, sir.
I also said on the show that I believe the natural home for minority American citizens right now is our conservative movement. Whether it's school choice or respect for God given rights. Regardless of the melanin content of your skin, who cares? This idea that all men are created equal, that they are, they are to be judged by what they do, not how they look. This is the conservative cause now, this is our movement.
And I made a plea. And I don't care how it sounds or not. I am practically begging and getting on bended knee to minority Americans to say, Please just give us a shot. We are the natural party for you. You don't need special government handouts, you don't need to be spoken to, like your second class citizens.
You should be addressed like dignified human beings like you are our party, your party is the Republican lieutenant governor. We're the home for Black Hispanic minority Americans.
I believe that, too, you know, I'm seeing that really change, Dan, right here, where I am in North Carolina, to a large extent. When I first came on the scene because of the speech that I gave the City Council back in 2018. The overwhelming majority of people who recognize me, and I'm just being blunt here, the overwhelming majority of people who recognize me on the street were white male gun owners. As I moved into running for lieutenant governor, it was mostly white Republicans after I won the lieutenant governor's office. And been in for a number and now have been in for almost, you know, for this past almost three years, the biggest group that has grown that recognized me.
Uh, um, are Black people between the ages of 25 and 45?
I see more and more people that fit that description, who recognize me and not only recognize me, they support me wholeheartedly. And here's why I believe those numbers are turning around. Number one. Uh, these folks were very, they're very dismayed about what happened during Covid. That was one of the things that really started to open people's eyes up.
I tell you, on a daily basis, I meet people who are still furious about the fact that they were kept out of the hospitals. Could not see their loved ones, who were dying alone in hospitals, could not receive the medical treatment that they wanted. And feel like they were lied to, both by the government and by the the hierarchy of the medical establishment, not necessarily their doctors, but the hierarchy of the medical medical establishment. So that chipped away at it, the second thing that chipped away with. And it happened during Covid. When me and these parents were made aware of the filthy material that's being presented to their children in schools. Um, many, many, many minority, uh, parents are standing up against this.
They're pushing back against it and they don't want it, they don't want their children in it, and they want a different way for their children. They want that choice to be able to take their children out of those failing public schools and give them the option to make sure that their children are successful. And the last thing that's really, really breaking up, breaking that straw is breaking the camel back.
So to speak is the transgender issue. I cannot tell you how many people recognize me and support me because of my strong stand against the uh, uh, my strong stand against the transgender, aggressive transgender movement. Uh, folks are not buying that, uh? Minorities across the board are not falling in line with that, they're pushing back against it.
And they are abandoning the Democratic Party and huge numbers because of those issues. And I believe we have the golden opportunity right now to get in. Talk to those folks and tell them, you want to take your power back. Uh, vote Republican, vote conservative. Get out there, get involved and make sure that you're voting for people who have confidence in your abilities. Because Democrats don't, they want to spoon feed you into the welfare state. Republicans, Conservatives, we want to give you the opportunity to succeed at the highest levels.
Indeed, yes, sir, yes, sir. We're talking to Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson, from North Carolina, running for governor at one of the best candidates in the country. A good, decent guy. If you haven't heard one of his speeches by the way, you're doing yourself a huge disservice.
No tickets required, just go to any video site and look it up. It's worth your time, sir.
You brought up an interesting point.
I wanted to kind of double down with you on, cause you're a pretty deep thinker about these things. If I, you know, I've listened to many of your speeches and you've thought this stuff through. Liberals are living on this theory right now of intersectionality. It's a blatantly racist stereotypical theory that relies on stereotypical tropes that all minorities basically think alike. That's really the essence of intersectionality.
That, oh, you know, a Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, that they all have this common thread. And it's that, like, the big guys coming for you and Democrats are going to save you, and we're the party for you.
That party, that, that, that, that, that's nonsense.
One is stereotypical, because they're not Black Americans, they're Americans, they're moms and dads and electricians and pilots.
They don't go to work and go, I'm a Black pilot, they go to work like I got to fly the plane. Like, nobody thinks like that other than dopey Democrats.
So that my producers laughing, but it's true.
You know, when I know it, you're not the Black lieutenant governor, you're the lieutenant governor. It's just ridiculous. So the Democrats theory of intersectionality is now coming back to bite them, and you just harped on it because the LGBTQ IA sexual identity politics lobby. A lot of them, not all, but a lot of them that are pushing to have this sexual material in schools does intersect with the Black community, many of whom. Again, I'm not speaking for all.
I'm not a member of it and I don't stereotype people are like, wait, wait, I'm a church.
Going believer in Jesus Christ?
I don't care about this, this crap ain't going in my school. What are you guys crazy? So the irony of the whole thing is the intersectionality is actually causing cannibalism as they start to eat each other alive.
Yeah, you're absolutely right, you know? This whole notion, these all these phony notions that these people have about intersectionality, about critical race theory, it's all a bunch of phony hogwash. That can be easily proven by simply picking up a history book, or picking up any book. That, that, that, that, uh, properly describes our society. Um, you know, this whole thing with the transgender movement, uh, is really, really it has gotten out of control. I say this all the time, Dan.
And so many people agree with me on this, I think the overwhelming majority of Americans will agree with me on this. Uh, this is the United States of America, we are constitutional republic, we are not a theocracy.
So I can not tell anyone what to do morally now, legally, that's a different question, but morally I can't. Uh, I cannot tell you what type of lifestyle to live, adult to adult, and when it comes to adult interpersonal relationships, or how you carry yourself as an adult. So, uh, in other words, you are free to blow your tuba all you like.
The problem is, you can not blow your tuba in my face, and you cannot blow it in my children's faces. And even more, to the point, you can not force me to dance to your music. You cannot do it, you are not going to do it. That is not the American way.
You are free to be a transgender person, but I am also free to disagree with it, I'm not free to violently disagree with it. I'm not free to discriminate against you and take away your constitutional rights because of it. But I am free to disagree with it. And I should be free from being forced to go along with it.
We have crossed the line in this country now, where where people say, if you disagree, you're racist, you're a bigot, you're a hater, you're breaking the rules. That's not how it's supposed to be, everybody's supposed to be free to enjoy their own themselves and their own persons. That includes those Christians who do not believe in the in the transgender of movement and the tenants thereof. And so we've got to push back against that and make sure that these bullies, and that's exactly what they are.
Bullies, uh, uh. We have to strip them of their power and make sure that they can't force us to go along. Give them their space to be who they want to be, but you're going to give me my space to be who I want to be as well.
My gosh, you're good at this, this whole freedom and liberty thing.
You just got this thing figured out.
We're talking to the lieutenant governor of North Carolina running for Governor, Mark Robinson.
Uh, sir, last question, I'll let you go. Um, just a local issue.
Well, you know, not local statewide, North Carolina, but we have a national show, so local to you in North Carolina. North Carolina is almost always like number one, two or three, business friendly wise on those rankings, uh, statewide for.
Places, uh, to relocate, move your business.
You're the lieutenant governor there.
You know, what's the secret? What are you guys doing down there? The state's getting redder. By the day you had in, you know, in contrast to what happened in national elections, you guys did really well in the midterms. Uh, what's the secret?
And if you're elected governor, how are you going to keep it going?
Well, the secret is that we have a legislature that's been in place since. The Conservative majority legislature has been in place since 2010 that have had their priorities in order. Uh, prior to 2010, this state was in horrible, our state was in horrible shape financially. $3.
4 billion in debt to the federal government. Uh, we were laying off state workers, teachers didn't get a raise for six years. But under Republican leadership, after 2010, we're no longer in debt to the federal government. We we've lowered taxes, both personal and corporate. Even in the face of those liberals. That said the state was going to go broke, and now we find ourselves no longer in debt to the federal government. Not one penny revenue is as high as it's ever been. We have surpluses instead of deficits. And we've just been named the number one business destination for the second year in a row. The thing that we have got to do is make sure that we keep conservative people in those seats and in those positions of leadership.
We've got our legislature, we've got our courts back, now we need to get the governor's mansion. Those three pieces together, pulling in the same direction. I guarantee you, we'll keep, uh, we'll keep this state red for the next 50 years or more.
And I pray a guy like you, uh, we need you. I mean, the country needs you, even though you, I hope you're going to be the next governor of North Carolina.
You are a national figure.
Anyone who knows you sees it, you have got a just a halo of positive energy around you.
Uh, sir, what's the website again?
We're talking to Mark Robinson running for governor of North Carolina. Folks support this guy. he's going to be a national figure, I'm telling you soon.
The website one last time, Sir.
There's Mark Robinson for N.C. That's Mark Robinson F o R N c.
Check them out, folks, please. He's definitely worth your time. Watch one of his speeches. You'll see what I mean, Sir. Always an honor to have you.
Thanks so much for spending some time with us. Hold down the fort down there in North Carolina, I'll be visiting soon.
All right, you got it, Thank you sir.
You got it?
That was Mark Robinson. I told you what I say, Jim guys, just really good at this whole liberty and freedom thing. We need more of that.
Not less, that was Mark Robinson. Up. Next is Representative Tim Burch. And I just met this gentleman.
And let me tell you, this interview is fascinating about UFOS, but.
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Here it is. This is a special interview with Tennessee Representative Tim Burchett. You may not know the name, but you will after this interview. He has some probably shocked me on the radio more than anyone else with this interview about UFOS.
Take a listen. So I'm really proud to say that we're on in Nashville and WDXC and we are obviously so honored to be there. And uh, Tennessee is a state I got a lot of love for. I'd say after Florida, it's my, probably my second favorite state. We go up there quite a bit.
And let me just say something before we bring on our next guest about the great state of Tennessee, where he is a representative in congressional district. I got a special surprise coming for you in Tennessee, in and around Nashville, and I know it's not the Congressman's district. Our next guest? But we got something coming up in August. Jim knows about it. And, uh, if you're in the Nashville area, listening on WDXC, then, um, we got.
A special surprise coming for you soon.
So stay tuned for the deets on that one, all right?
Let me welcome in this guest Congressman Tim Burchett. thank you so much for joining us.
We really appreciate it. How are you, sir?
I am great Mr. Bongino and I can't tell you what an honor it is for me to be on the show with you. I've been up.
Yeah, I know this is highly unprofessional. Hell, I'm 58 years old, but I have been a big fan of yours, so it's really cool. Thank you for putting out.
Thank you, thank you.
No, no, that's great.
I deeply appreciate it.
I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm kind of, uh, humbled a little bit, you would say that. I mean, I ran for Congress and lost, you actually won, so don't like me too much.
You, I don't want to. I didn't do too well, so I, you know, you have set the world on fire over the past couple of days.
Because number one, he took, I thought, a really informed stance on the Secret Service scandal.
And Agency I love was a part of but, but I think made a major screw up.
He had some comments on that, but also there was an article. Uh, you were quoted about this unidentified aerial phenomenon, what people otherwise would call UFOS, and this article went nuclear. And you were quoted in it as speaking about UFO technology. And one of the quotes were, Um, was it that we can handle it?
And I really wanted to have you on the show to to talk about that. Um, I know that you're limited in what you can say.
I understand that.
But what you can say, Uh, should, should we be worried? Cause that kind of freaked me out a little bit, sir.
Well, I think I was maybe a little tongue in cheek, she got. My big point is now is that we need to the Pentagon and all the military intelligence, and honestly, Mr. Bongino, military intelligence is is all I like. Congressional ethics.
It probably doesn't exist, but regardless, I wish that they would just release all the files that they have. They, you know, we'll, we'll go in the skip, we'll review stuff. And it's highly redacted. It looks like a big old piece of Swiss cheese, and it just it's, it's a joke.
And you've got. Now, the Pentagon is realizing that 55 of the Americans think that there's something going on. You have, um, you have people that are, um highly qualified pilots coming forward, um, navy pilots, some of the best in the world. But tic-tac videos, not, not tic-tac, but tic-tac like the candy, um, and and it just, you know, always my my daughter says, Hey boomer, it's tic-tac. I said, No baby. Not the communist Chinese propaganda.
I'm talking, but. But anyway, um. And now the Pentagon, of course, is talking out of both sides of their collective mouths by saying, Well, we need to study it. And of course, what that means, send us another billion dollars. And I'm, you know, they, they can't. That's not happening in my book, but anyway, so now I'm just really wanting transparency, I want these hearings, I want to, let's we've got. We've got credible sources telling us we've recovered craft these, um, and credible sources tell us that things like the tic-tac video or just reverse engineer craft that we've, um, that we've, we've collected.
So I'm just wanting to get to the bottom of it and I'm hoping these hearings will do that.
We're talking to Congressman Tim Burchett from the second district in the great, amazing state of Tennessee, which I love and adore. A congressman. Is it possible? And I'm I'm just asking your opinion, obviously not asking to give up any classified information here.
Um, but is it just possible?
Because I, you know, I believe in Occam's razor, given all possible explanations, except the one that requires, you know, the least.
Amount of assumptions, right? Um, keep it simple, is it possible that this is just advanced technology that's domestic, that we just don't understand by domestic?
I mean, Earth, not the United States.
I mean, maybe the Chinese Communist Party, or even a friendly, maybe a Friendlies invented something, and maybe that technology is something as simple as as radar spoofing. Where we think we're seeing something on all these sensors, but that's why these pilots aren't touching it or shooting it down, like you're seeing something on a sensor that's not really there. Is that more likely than it being alien from some other?
Planet or some other galaxy?
Well, that's what we took with the AI, too. But here's, here's my point. And that's why I don't put a lot of stock in the videos, I know, but this was a lot of this videos we have, we've had, we've. ASTRONAUTS Gordon Cooper, probably one of the most storied astronauts ever, Um, described a craft landing at a facility he was at and they filmed it.
They came, they took the footage and they took it to a right Patterson, and they called right Patterson the next day. And they said they didn't know what they were talking about. It's just too much, it's too much. Dan, and I think, excuse me, I think that it's a um. I think some of it could be possibly something recovered. We've reversed engineering, but I honestly think it's something that's not of this planet.
We don't have the technology, we don't. There is no way. Because if we did say if it was the Chinese or the Russians, honestly, he would control us, Putin. He'd fly over to, I've said this many times, but he'd fly to the get out bare chested, probably ride a unicorn over and wrestle. Joe Biden Get back in it. I mean, you know, these egos, they would control us.
And if we had it, we wouldn't be worried about a war in Ukraine, it'd be over overnight. Um, except, you know, except, except the war pimps couldn't make all their money. But my point is this is that is that this is some incredible technology, these, these crafts. If there's a human in it, they'd be a instant catch-up package because of the G's and things that are turning.
So I just think we've got a, um, we've got something we don't know anything about, or we're we're, we're trying to hide. And I just, I just wish. And in case in point, the Kennedy assassination over 50 years ago. But they still will not release it. Nobody on those, any of that, uh, intelligence is even alive, right?
Yet they say, Who are they protecting? Yeah.
Yeah, who are they protecting? And it's about control, it's about technology, it's about money, and it's about corruption.
And that's what Washington, D.C. runs on both parties. And we know it, you know it, and it's just, Uh, it's, it's, we've got to, we just got to get to the bottom of it. And you know, I've got an amendment in the NDAA that would, um, would would, declassify the U.FO documents. And now Schumer's joined in on it, too, he's got one in the Senate.
So I think, you know, but again, you got to trust the Pentagon to do what's right, which they won't. I just think we got to. Eventually. You're going to have to say, Hey, we're cutting off your money until y'all do right, and that's, that's the bottom line.
We're talking to Congressman Tim Burchett from, UH, to the Great State of Tennessee Congressional District two. Uh, congressman, last question on this topic. And then we'll, we'll get to something else. Cause you, you, you've made a lot of statements in the news I find newsworthy and interesting for that matter. It. Do you think if this information on UFOS and UAPS was declassified? Because you just made a pretty stunning statement that I got to tell you, floored me that you actually believe this is alien technology.
I'm I'm stunned because I I don't, I'm not suggesting that that.
There's no way that's possible. I'm just I'm kind of floored, I don't even know how to respond. Do you think if Americans saw what you saw that, that they would draw the same same conclusions?
If they saw what I saw and talk to the people I talked to, they would. You got to realize, Dan, every night, every night. My dad, gum dogs, Roscoe, Buzz and Charlie. They always got to go to the bathroom at four 30 in the morning. All right, I let them out early, let them out.
Whatever, four, 30.
I'm my ass is up every night I go out and look at those stars, and I can you imagine the light from those stars?
Literally, literally left there before the time of Christ, I mean, that is the vastness of God, Great universe. And yeah, I don't fear whatever it is out there. Because honestly, with that kind of technology, if they can travel to us. And we can't control it. And we've seen it and don't know what to do with it, um, you know, we'd be over. I'm not, I don't fear him, I'm not worried about it.
I just want the government to release what they have, that's my concern. I fear a government that is not transparent and that's what we have right now.
Wow, Jim, get this on the Sunday show too. This is. This is one of the most amazing interviews I've ever conducted.
I can't tell you Congress without Florida am I? Let me go to some other things, too.
Um, you had commented on the Secret Service scandal and I, you know. I worked there for 12 years with some of the greatest people I ever met in my entire life. That, I mean, if I mean it in a literal sense, would give their life for a Democrat or Republican president in a heartbeat. Because that's what we do, we protect our Republic, even when we don't agree with the people in charge. Uh, having said that, I agree with you wholeheartedly. You have been, um, robustly condemning what you believe may be a coverup, uh, with this cocaine scandal at the White House.
Congressman I just don't see it possible.
Given what I know of the access system at the White House and how these cubbies.
Work that you could not have lifted a print. Someone got white powder in the White House.
Forget that it's cocaine for a minute.
Who cares? Where you got white powder? It could have been anthrax. You're telling me? You couldn't have fingerprinted the cubby or fingerprinted a non-porous plastic bag? How did the bag get in the cubby by antenna?
We only have fingers. This doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, that that bag of cocaine has a pair of legs, I think, Mr. Barney, you know, they reported it in one area and it went into another. And another thing is, they don't have the key, but listen to what they said and I agree with you.
Secret Service are top notch best in the world. And those poor guys had to come in there and tell us that. And I was just like, Oh, I feel sorry for those guys because they're higher ups. And they're probably they're telling the truth as far as they know it, because they're just told what they're told they're not in the laboratory. But here's what they told us that they did not have enough DNA to diagnose what it who it is.
It was sort of like saying, I'm, I'm sort of pregnant, but really not, I'm not really sure. I mean, you know, I mean, what the heck is that about? And so then, you know, and then they tell us what the in the the investigation is over tomorrow, and then, you know. And I was just like, Are you kidding me?
And then they said it wasn't. This meeting wasn't classified. They'd already briefed the president so he would be prepared to know how to respond to this earlier. You know, this whole thing is this. Washington, D.C. Mr. Bongino, Everybody wants to pick and choose.
Oh, we need to clean this up. We know Washington D.C. is a freaking trash can, and you need to put a garden hose to it and turn it down and wash it out.
How did I not find you before? I really you're amazing. We got to. I'm going to be up in Nashville soon.
We got to get together. I know it's a little far from your district, but you're in Tennessee.
Yeah, you got to come, we got, we got to talk, man.
I really like that.
All right, we got. I got two minutes left, but I want to ask you that final question.
Because I agree with you on that. And yes, the agents are awesome, and I've got just so, you know, because you guys determine their their funding and all that stuff. The agents I spoke to are retired, are pissed, and some who are active too are furious because this isn't what they represent.
They are worthy of trust and confidence.
But I got about a minute, 30 seconds. You're in Tennessee, a state exploding, a great business state, a great Republican state. Final comments on this growing disparity in the United States.
Between struggling blue states and red states.
What's the secret in Tennessee, or is it a secret at all?
Tennessee is a low tax right to work state. If you want to get a job, brother, you come to Tennessee. if you want to work, come to Tennessee. If you want to bring your northeastern liberal values, stay in the Northeast. Because everybody, everybody down here, everybody in Tennessee, that that has a northern act. As I like to say, East Tennessee is the only place in America where people don't speak with an accent. But the people that come there don't want to change it.
They see the way their communities used to be and how Tennessee is, and that's why they're moving to Tennessee. The vast majority of some of those conservative people I know have a northern accent and they live in my district.
And they are one of my brother, me too. I go, I live down here in Florida.
And the people moving down here from the north are not liberals. That's why we change the voter registration from down 200,000 of Democrats to up 500. The people coming here are. I keep telling people they're like, Oh, stop telling people how Florida is. Liberals are. Yeah, of course there's some liberals will be down.
The Conservatives far outnumb them, I outnumber them. I was going to buy a place in Franklin and I could not believe properties are like tripled just in the last few years. Because so many people love Tennessee. I got to go.
Congressman I'm out of time when I come up to Nashville.
Let's get together, we'll do some interview, we'll do, we'll do it for the show, this is going to be great.
I'll reach out to your office, OK, is that work for you?
Yes, sir, brother, and always remember the camera will make love to me. you'll love me on TV.
I can, I can tell, because the audio is great, too. There you go, folks.
Congressman Tim Burchett, Congressional District Two in Tennessee Thank you, sir.
Well, that was what this guy's a rock star that was. That was hilarious. That interview was just bananas, but that's the whole show.
Banana central Jim's like, All right, take a break.
We'll wait, wait. Thanks for listening to the weekend show. I so deeply appreciate it. Can always listen to these interviews live on the radio.
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