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What I had in my mind was, he's done this before.
He's hunting women.
That young woman, up there on the hillside, could have been you.
Yeah, that was his plan.
Your 21-year-old daughter has just suddenly vanished.
It's devastating.
This beautiful young lady disappeared after going to meet a photographer.
My heart dropped.
What if it is the same guy?
Were there other women who came forward?
Several other women, he said.
We're casting for the new James Bond movie. You're perfect.
He told me there was a photo shoot happening up in the Hollywood Hills.
He said, well, you need this certain outfit.
High heels, but not too high.
A shorter skirt, but not too short.
He grabbed me, pulled me by my hair, dragged me back to the bed.
I said, this guy's done this before.
He'll do it again, and he will kill someone.
A new turn in the mystery from our hit podcast, Murder in the Hollywood Hills.
You wonder, how has he not been stopped?
I wanted to get all these women together.
I wanted to bring him out of the shadows.
Young women with big dreams, stalked by a predator.
But in a Hollywood twist, could they turn the tables on him?
I'm Lester Holt, and this is Dateline.
Here's Keith Morrison with The Girl with the Hibiscus Tattoo.
This is where she came.
The young woman drove in her little car up the winding confusion of narrow roads.
Among houses perched like spectators, peering out at the show down below.
Hollywood, and the vast city beyond.
Her name was Christy Johnson.
She was 21, not quite 22.
And then, as evening fell over the steep canyons, she simply vanished, like the sun.
Where is she, that she doesn't have communication to me, that she's not calling?
This is the story of what happened to Christy.
It's about a smooth-talking Hollywood predator.
I really knew this guy was up to something bad.
And it's about a sisterhood of women who banded together after the legal system failed to protect them.
What we have as victims, inherently, is a powerful voice.
We come together and use our voices, we win. It's powerful.
A story begins in 2003.
Christy Johnson was just starting out, finally on her own.
Here in the city of a million dreams.
Or close to it, a shared apartment in Santa Monica.
And with dreams of her own, said her dad Kirk.
But not the starry-eyed kind.
Christy's were more grounded.
She wanted to be a makeup person, she talked about working behind the scenes.
That's correct.
Producing, or directing, possibly.
Something in that industry.
She felt like she was on her way, you know, when this happened.
When this happened?
Seems like another age now.
More than 20 years have passed since the events I'll describe here.
All before the iPhone, or Facebook, or the widespread use of high-def TV.
But I'm telling you now because it's a tale that did not die.
Even now, remains a wound that hasn't quite healed.
I met Christy's mom, Terry Hall, back toward the beginning.
She had no idea what was to come.
How could she?
Christy and I spoke on the phone every day.
You know, we enjoyed being with each other and doing things together.
And had a very close relationship.
It was the day after Valentine's Day, February 15th.
That Saturday morning, like every morning, Christy called her mother at home up in Northern California.
She told Terry she was headed to the Century City Mall to do some shopping.
And I said, okay, great, you know, don't buy, you know, anything.
Pick something out and it'll be your Valentine's present.
By Sunday, Christy should have called her mother again.
She did not.
I thought, now that's strange.
Kind of a low-grade anxiety.
Right, like, gee, I wonder what's happening here.
You know, that I can't get a hold of her.
Again she called, and again.
Two days went by.
No answer, no call.
When I couldn't get a hold of her on her cell phone again, I called her on her direct line at work.
And when I got her answering message on her work phone is when I became very alarmed.
That was Monday.
Christy, ever conscientious, wouldn't miss work.
Terry called a co-worker of Christy's who was also worried.
And so far away and beyond anxious, Terry phoned the Santa Monica police.
They suggested that I call all the local hospitals, which I did.
But she wasn't at any of them.
Mind you, not so uncommon for a young woman to just take off for a while.
Maybe that's what happened?
Just the same?
The officer took a report.
Tall, attractive young woman, blonde hair, hibiscus flower tattoo on the small of her back.
The officer was getting a bad feeling about this one.
And so he walked down the hall to talk to the on-duty detective, Virginia Obenchain, who got that very same feeling.
So you really were taking this seriously from the get-go?
Oh, from the moment we found out about it.
It was later that day when Kirk, divorced from Christy's mom and far away in Michigan, got the phone call that Christy was missing.
That's devastating, you know.
There's not a word to describe that other than the fact that you just, you don't have any answers.
What is this? Maybe she got on a sailboat and went to Mexico.
Maybe she went to a concert.
You better hope so.
Yeah, you're hoping that that's the case.
And immediately, I made travel arrangements to fly to Los Angeles.
Detective Obenchain told the family that investigators had spoken to Christy's roommate, a woman named Carrie.
Carrie gave the police an important lead that Christy had indeed gone to the mall, bursting into their apartment with big news.
She was all excited because she was going to do an audition that was going to bring in some big dollars.
This is the police recording of a detective's interview with Christy's roommate.
She says, I'm so excited. She goes, I met this guy. And she's, I mean, she was like really excited.
Christy told Carrie some of the things that the man at the mall said.
Something about an incredible opportunity, a very special audition to perhaps appear in a Bond movie.
They're looking for a fresh face. They're looking for someone like in a James Bond movie.
Christy also told Carrie she was to wear a very specific outfit to the audition.
A man's white dress shirt, a super short miniskirt, sheer pantyhose, and a pair of sky-high stiletto heels.
She had to be real sultry and sexy. That's what they were looking for. And they were going to give her a necktie to wear.
So what did you do after getting word about the roommate and the fact that she'd been shopping?
We went to the Century City Mall and looked at the videotapes to see if we can see Christy.
And there she was on the grainy security camera.
We saw a picture of her in one of the stores buying the skirt.
But that was it. Though they canvassed every camera in the mall, there was no video of her with a man. Nothing.
You've checked all the hospitals, you've checked the tapes at the mall, you've checked with the roommate, you've checked with the phone, and no Christy. What do you do?
Well, we decided to go to the media and ask for the public's help.
The family and the police department were very concerned because it was very uncharacteristic of her behavior to not show up to work yesterday and today.
And no one has seen her since Saturday afternoon.
And calls started coming in. One of them from a young woman named Susan Murphy.
What was it like to get that call from Susan Murphy?
That opened up the whole case. It was unbelievable.
The case of the slippery predator.
He was in a place where he wasn't supposed to be.
The man who attacked women and manipulated the law.
I said it then to everyone involved in the case, this guy's done this before, he'll do it again, and he will kill someone.
Because he almost killed me.
Terror is what it was.
Christy Johnson's mother rushed to L.A., frantic, eager to do something.
To find her.
Unable to do much beyond hold it together, or try to, and spread the word.
Her father, Kirk, flew in, went to Christy's apartment in Santa Monica, did all he could think of just then.
When I got there, here are these two local TV vans.
Someone said, who are you? Well, I'm Christy's father.
How long has she lived with the shooter? Do you know offhand?
Since November.
And I had made a poster with a picture of Christy.
And I wrote a note. I said, Christy, please come home. Love, Dad.
You know, the strength of the family.
Kirk told everyone who'd listened about Christy.
Born in California, moved with her family to Saugatuck, Michigan,
where she played high school basketball and sailed out on the lake.
She was a great sailor. She was very skillful at that.
She had a very close group of friends.
She had a high school class of 60, so everybody knew everybody.
But after a year of college, Christy decided she really wanted to be out west.
She told me how beautiful it was and how much she was enjoying being in California.
Terry followed her daughter west, explored California with her.
And now, now she was beside herself.
Boy, I can't imagine how that must feel.
You just, you move into action, you know.
I was almost void of having feelings. I was just on the phone the whole time.
Kirk was surprised Christy would even think of showing up for a so-called audition.
Does it sound like Christy?
Not really, because Christy was very, I would say, street smart.
Yeah, that's what others have said about her.
That she would have some doubt, you know.
But, you know, she knows, don't speak with strangers, you know.
You don't know who they are.
Christy had told her roommate that her meeting with the industry guy was at 5.30 p.m.
But where?
Phone technology was not quite so revealing back then.
But cell phone records might tell them something.
So Detective Obenshain got Christy's.
And discovered that her cell phone last dialed out at 5.32 p.m.
But not from Beverly Hills, which is where she told her roommate she was going.
Instead, the call was placed from Laurel Canyon, up in the Hollywood Hills.
So you must have been wondering, what the heck is she doing up there?
Yes.
And then after that last ping, nothing?
Nothing.
And then five days after Christy vanished,
a woman named Susan Murphy saw a tiny article in the Los Angeles Times about Christy
and how family and police were trying desperately to find her.
This is an article I read, and it mentions this beautiful young lady
who disappeared after going to meet a photographer.
And that's all it says.
What was your reaction when you read this?
Call it women's intuition. I just knew. My heart dropped.
And just like that, Susan Murphy picked up the phone and called the police.
I just started my story, and they said, can you hold on?
And they immediately put me in touch with the lead detective on the case, Detective Obenshain.
Susan told Detective Obenshain that she, too, had been approached by a man at the Century City Mall
just a few weeks before Christy went missing.
He told her he was in the business, and he gave a name, Victor Thomas,
which gave police something to work with, at least.
Except there seemed to be no such person, at least no Victor Thomas who fits Susan's description.
But when they pulled security video from the mall, sure enough, there was a guy.
First he seemed to be following Susan around Macy's, and then he approached her.
He just said, I think you're very attractive.
He said, I'm a director of photography, and we're casting for the new James Bond movie.
And he said, we've been casting all day, and you're the look we want. You're perfect.
And I'd had enough experience to kind of know that this was a come on, a pick up.
And I knew that, and I was very intrigued.
If it's true, hey, cool. That'd be great. How fun would that be to be a Bond girl?
The man invited her to come to an audition, said he'd set it up for the following day.
Gave her an address in West Hollywood, and she went.
But she brought her boyfriend along, just in case.
I noticed that it was an abandoned building it looked like to me, so I thought, okay.
I said, well, first of all, I'm not going anywhere with you.
I said, I need some identification.
He said, oh, I don't have any identification.
I said, you don't? I go, where is it? He goes, I left it on the set.
I go, you did? On the set? On the set.
Susan knew then. The guy was trying to scam her.
I started, like, motioning to Mark to get out of the car.
You realized you were with somebody? I realized I was with somebody.
He's like, no, you're not right for the part anyway. He's like, just forget it.
And at that, the guy, whoever he actually was, took off, ran away.
But there were crucial extra details Susan had to offer to Detective Obenshain,
details police had not made public,
and very similar to what Christie had told her roommate.
He said, it's very, very important that I wear stilettos, black stilettos, as high as possible.
And then he said a black miniskirt, preferably, but any miniskirt would be great.
Pantyhose, a white man's shirt, hair slicked back really tight in a ponytail, and a man's tie.
He said he would provide the tie.
Detective Obenshain asked Susan to sit with a sketch artist,
and then the Santa Monica PD got the drawing to the media.
And one morning soon after, an actress named Kathy Debono happened to be watching TV.
And I recognized him instantly.
So right away, she called the police.
I told them that I saw the news, and that I'd met this man at the Century City Mall several years prior.
Oh yes, the guy at the mall.
But Kathy wasn't going to be the prey. She would become the hunter.
He seemed really good at what he was doing,
and so I wanted to see if I could understand what he was about.
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When police investigating the disappearance of Christy Johnson appealed to the public for help,
Christy's grateful family could only hope it would make some sort of difference.
Somebody will know something.
And sure enough, somebody did. Lots of somebodies.
Beginning with Susan Murphy's story of her frightening encounter with the man who said his name was Victor Thomas.
The subject approached her and insisted in a very aggressive manner that she come with him immediately.
Susan's story, and her composite sketch of a possible suspect, set off a chain reaction.
What kind of response did you get?
Well, we set up a tip line.
We got, oh, probably a thousand calls on the tip line.
One of them from a woman who just happened to catch the story on the morning TV news.
This woman, Kathy Debono, the guy in the mall?
She knew about him, all right.
There was no doubt in your mind?
Not for a second. No doubt whatsoever.
I called the police.
When Kathy heard how Christy disappeared and then saw that picture of a possible abductor,
it instantly brought her back to an experience she had at that very same Century City mall late 98 or early 99.
She was 28 at the time, unusually tall and very fit and already in the business of Hollywood.
Blood pressure 110 over 80. Pulse is ready.
With, among other things, Chicago hope and a recurring role on Star Trek Deep Space Nine.
She was just minding her own business when a well-dressed man approached her.
And he said to me, excuse me, are you an actress or a model?
And I just stopped and said, yeah.
And he said, I really like your legs.
You look perfect for something we're casting right now.
Can we talk about it for a little while?
There are two ways of saying that. How did he say his tone?
His weird level was his creep level was at this point in the conversation.
His creep level didn't exist.
Thing was, Kathy was used to auditions, was used to hearing professionals discuss her look
and whether it would work for some TV or movie role.
But this guy seemed just a little off.
Like when he tried to lure her to a photo shoot and told her to bring the very same provocative wardrobe
that Christie's roommate and Susan Murphy had described to police.
A white man's button down shirt and shiny stockings.
He said the stockings were important because it was all about the legs.
And a black mini skirt as short as it could be, as tight as it could be.
And black stiletto heels.
And he would bring the necktie.
And he would bring the necktie. I knew it was BS.
And warning bells started to go off.
He wanted me to go to an audition.
And anytime anyone wanted to set up an audition, I would have them go through my agent.
That was just sort of the run of things. That's how you did it.
And he didn't want to do that.
But Kathy kept listening.
You know, a lot of people would just get up and walk away.
Forget it, Creek. You're gone. Why didn't you do that?
I supposedly would have.
I think the only way I can answer that is my own natural curiosity.
Natural curiosity she picked up from her father, a detective in New York.
Anyway, the guy at the mall.
He seemed really good at what he was doing.
So I stayed and continued to talk to him and asked him questions.
And he told me there was a photo shoot happening right now.
That it was up in the Hollywood Hills, not far away from the Century City Mall.
The Hollywood Hills, as police now knew, is the area where Christie's cell phone last pinged.
He suggested that I leave the mall with him.
Right then and there, he would drive me to the audition and bring me back to my car later.
Well, I certainly was never going to do that.
But still hoping to see what was up with this guy, Kathy did drive to the address he gave her.
But she took a little insurance with her.
A friend and professional stuntman named Chester.
So she got to the house, but the guy did not come out to meet her.
So he would have looked out the window, saw Chester in the car, and just didn't do it.
That's my assumption. He saw Chester and aborted his mission.
Yeah.
I was disappointed because I wanted to learn more.
And now the opportunity to learn more was done.
I would just have to move on and hope that no one fell for his ruse.
So that was that.
Except, of course, it wasn't.
That strange man was going to change the course of her life.
Hers. And a few more, that is.
You were his target that day.
I think I was the target for a month. Almost a month.
What happened to Christy Johnson up here in the Hollywood Hills?
No signal from her phone. No sign anywhere of her white Miata.
Though the Santa Monica police had already issued a BOLO, be on the lookout for the car.
We're going to go up the hill.
Groups of people who didn't even know Christy gathered to see if they could help.
If I didn't help, I would have felt worse.
All the work people were doing to find her daughter kept Terry going.
I was always hopeful that she was somewhere alive.
Christy was a very strong woman, and I knew that if she was in a circumstance that she could survive, that she would.
Waiting and praying, Terry pushed to keep her daughter's disappearance front and center in Los Angeles.
Bring Christy back to us.
I talked to the media. It was a big media blitz of just trying to get the message out there of Christy's missing.
That media blitz helped. Women who heard about the case were on edge.
My mom said, you know, there's this girl missing, and they said something about someone posing as a photographer.
And I said, oh, OK, Mom, thanks. I'll keep my eyes open for that.
Like Christy Johnson, Alice Walker was just getting started in Los Angeles.
She'd brought her skills with her. She was an actress, dancer and writer.
None of them paying very much yet.
So to make ends meet, she got a job as a server at a popular restaurant in the Century City Mall.
This is how she remembers it two decades later.
This man sat down at my table. He said that he had written a book about a man who is being framed for making snuff films.
And I didn't know what snuff films were, so he had to he had to tell me what they were.
There are films where someone gets killed and really gets killed.
Did he say what his name was?
He said his name was Victor.
Victor. Mind you, said Alice, he didn't seem scary or creepy as he proposed the most amazing possibility,
to try out for a role in a Bond movie.
He invited her to an audition, she said.
It would be here in this building in West Hollywood, same place Susan Murphy had gone for her bogus audition.
But it sounded real, said Alice.
Victor told her the movie's director would be there to watch her audition.
Oh, and also, Victor told her she'd have to wear a black miniskirt, pantyhose, stilettos, and a man's white dress shirt.
And she went. But the director wasn't there.
Still, Victor suggested, why not practice a few moves?
OK, she said.
I did this walk in circles.
And then he showed me, you know, kind of one other thing.
I had to cross my legs and then put, hook one ankle over the other ankle.
OK.
And it was very important that my ankles were really, really tight.
That's strange.
Very strange.
But not frightening. Yet.
Then Victor told her she'd have to come back again when the director was available.
And so a few days later, she did.
But still, no director.
And this time it got a little weird when he told her to try on the necktie he'd brought with him.
So what I did is he put the necktie on and I put my thumb in front of the knot so that he couldn't tie a necktie on me for real.
And I just kept my finger there, kind of just ready to.
You really did that?
Yeah, I took the necktie off. I went to leave.
He said, well, let's try again in a day or two. I'll see what the schedule is.
And then Christy vanished.
Alice was watching TV and saw the sketch of the person of interest.
And I thought, wow, if someone had to draw Victor, that would be him.
And then I just, I didn't take it in that they could be the same person.
Really?
Somewhere inside, I just wasn't ready for that.
Yep.
You know, just total denial, I guess.
But deep inside, Alice was freaked out.
And then a co-worker from the restaurant phoned her.
And she said, you know, the police came here.
Somebody said something about James Bond and it made me think of you and that person you were meeting with.
And then it just kind of all came together.
So went to the police and brought the outfit.
He had told her that he was producing the next Bond movie and he wanted her to be a Bond girl.
Didn't change his script at all. Just the same all the time.
Yes.
And the same pickup place.
And the same clothing. And the same pickup line.
When did the man who called himself Victor first approach Alice?
Just hours after he ran away from Susan Murphy and her boyfriend.
Same guy. Same M.O.
Alice told the police that the last time she heard from him was February 15th.
The very day Christy went missing.
He left a message.
I remember in the message he said something like, you know, I really need to get a hold of you.
I'm trying to get a hold of you.
He just sounded strangely frantic.
Had the man grabbed Christy because he couldn't reach Alice?
And just who was he?
That's about when Detective Obenchain got yet another phone call.
Something about that composite sketch, said the caller.
And that was from a parole agent who said, that looks like my parolee.
Detective Obenchain and the Santa Monica police got hundreds of tips
about a possible suspect in the disappearance of Christy Johnson.
The most urgent of those tips was attached to a name.
Victor, a smooth operator who'd apparently been approaching young women for years,
inviting them to audition for a role in a Bond movie.
Just like the guy Christy had rushed off to see.
But what happened to her?
L.A. is a vast expanse of places to hide.
A living person or a body?
What did you suspect at that point?
We didn't know where she was.
We didn't know if she was still alive.
We were hoping she was still alive.
We never gave up hope.
Any leads at all?
Nothing.
There was no bank activity.
There was no phone activity.
Nothing.
And though police heard stories about this Victor character, he seemed elusive too.
Everybody was doing everything that they could.
I mean, we had overtime people manning the tip lines.
We had all six of us in robbery homicide working the case.
We had other detectives helping us pass out flyers at the Century City Mall,
do other computer work that we were looking for.
And we were working pretty much 20-hour days without a day off.
We were exhausting every lead possible, everything that we could think of.
Until Detective Obenchain picked up the phone
and found herself talking to yet another woman who'd encountered Victor,
his parole officer.
She said that he had just gotten out of prison,
that he was her parolee.
She gave us his full name, his birthdate, everything.
What was his full name?
Victor Paleologos.
And just like that, here he was.
Here, finally, was the Victor who'd targeted Alice Walker and Susan Murphy
and Kathy DeBono.
Had to be the very same Victor who lured Christy to some phony audition
in the Hollywood Hills.
The parole officer told Detective Obenchain that Victor Paleologos
had not been checking in after he was released from prison on January 20th,
less than a month before Christy went missing.
And he just got out of prison for what?
A sexual assault.
What was that like to hear?
It did not sound good.
I was very, very concerned for Christy.
But Victor Paleologos was not so hard to track down after all.
He hadn't taken off somewhere, though he may have wanted to.
No, Victor had made a big mistake.
Turns out when we were looking for Victor,
he was in custody by Beverly Hills Police Department for auto theft.
Auto theft? What did he try to do?
He went on a test drive with the salesman and the vehicle.
They got back to the dealership, and he said, I'm going to take the car.
They had some conversation, and he walked by where the keys to the car were,
picked up the keys, and took the car.
Beverly Hills Police videotaped their pursuit of the stolen BMW
as it raced into the parking lot of another Los Angeles mall.
How long did it take to catch him?
Beverly Hills was right on the money.
They don't like car theft there.
They don't like car theft, so they had him in custody within an hour.
And being a parolee, he'd be back inside the slammer in no time.
Yes, and then he went to county jail.
So Detective Obenshain's colleagues headed to the Men's Central Jail
in downtown Los Angeles.
But when they got there to pick up Paleologos, they couldn't find him.
He was in a place where he wasn't supposed to be.
The Men's Central is a truly massive place.
Thousands of men are housed here at any given time.
And somehow Victor must have learned that police were on their way
and had gone into hiding.
But how is that possible in a jail?
He had to be in here somewhere.
Guards were sent off to find him.
And apparently he was down in the laundry room,
and there were three other inmates there,
and he was offering to give one of the inmates $5,000
to switch wristbands with him because it was a matter of life or death.
Well, we all know you don't get the death penalty for car theft.
No, but you do for a few other things, don't you?
Yes, you do.
At least one.
Was it somebody who looked like he did or that they could be confused?
No, these were three male Hispanics, and he's Greek.
Eventually they brought Victor into an interview room
and tried to pin him down.
Where was Christy? What had he done to her?
And it was like trying to eat soup with a fork.
I knew he was lying through his teeth, and that he was not being honest with us.
They are the families of the missing in America,
and they're desperately searching for answers.
Somebody knows something.
I'm Josh Bankels.
Join me for Season 3 of Missing in America.
Listen carefully, because just one small detail might allow you to solve a mystery.
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