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Michigan votes today, and some Democrats say they're voting
uncommitted instead of President Biden.
He nor Vice President Harris should take our vote for granted.
What's the president hearing from voters who delivered the state forum in 2020?
I'm Michelle Martin, that's Steve Inskeep, and this is Up First from NPR News.
Some Michigan voters warned Biden to change course on the Israel-Hamas war.
We're not sizable enough to make a candidate win,
but we're sizable enough to make a candidate lose.
Our colleagues Leila Fadel and Don Gagne have been crossing the state.
What are they hearing?
Also, the United States goes to court to stop a grocery mega-merger.
Kroger and Albertson's propose to combine.
What does that mean for your neighborhood supermarket?
Stay with us.
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Michigan holds its presidential primary today.
We know who's likely to win, but we don't know what messages voters may be trying to
send with their vote or decision not to vote, as the case may be.
And they matter because Michigan is a presidential swing state,
one of six that went to Joe Biden in 2020 and decided the election.
Now he seems likely to face Donald Trump again.
And Biden and Trump, of course, are the favorites today.
For a preview today, we're joined by our co-host Leila Fadal and by NPR national
political correspondent Don Gagne, both in the great state of Michigan.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Don, what are you looking for?
Well, on the GOP side, Donald Trump should have little trouble.
Nikki Haley is on the ballot.
She vows to continue to give Republican voters an option other than Trump,
at least through Super Tuesday.
On the Democratic side, there's President Biden, who faces only minor challengers on the ballot.
Except there is one challenge to Biden that is really worth watching today.
It's an orchestrated campaign by pro-Palestinian activists who are angry.
And that is an understatement.
They're angry that Biden has not called for a complete and permanent ceasefire in
Gaza and to pressure him to do so, to send him a strong message.
Arab Americans and Muslim Americans, many of them based in Dearborn,
are urging Democratic primary voters to vote uncommitted.
Layla, I've been listening to your reporting in that voter group.
How widespread is the protest?
I mean, it's beyond the Arab and American Muslim communities.
We heard that same outreach in the Detroit metro area about Gaza from young people,
progressives, other people of color, and specifically from young Black voters who
were saying to me, they worry about Gaza, but also human rights in the U.S.
Voting rights, police brutality, equality, inclusivity.
And of course, the economy came up too.
And that's all making them think about sitting out this election.
Take Kaya Brazil.
She's Black, a full-time student at Wayne State.
She's 30.
And she had to quit one of her two full-time jobs to enroll in school.
She's a lifelong Democrat, has always voted.
But this year, she's not inspired.
In the Democratic primaries today, she may vote uncommitted.
And in the general election, she's thinking about staying home.
So I asked her what she wants to hear from a candidate for president.
We need a livable wage.
It is absolutely ridiculous that you can work 40 plus hours and not be able to support yourself,
let alone a family.
OK, so she can send a message in the primary, but there's also the general election.
Are there people in these voter groups who are thinking of Donald Trump as a
choice for them in the fall?
A small, small minority.
The big question is more, how many show up for the Democrats?
The big question in a state like Michigan, where it's all about the margins.
When we asked the campaign about their concern around the protest vote against Biden among
would-be Democratic voters over Gaza, they said he's working for peace in the Middle East,
but then highlighted a lot of other important issues that might appeal to these voters,
like his investment in green energy or his stance on reproductive rights.
So it seems like the campaign is hoping to win back voters who are
angry with these other issues, where they might see him as doing well.
So again, all these voter groups are important, but none give Michigan to a candidate alone.
I think Dearborn Mayor Abdullah Hammoud,
the first Arab-American mayor of a majority Arab-American city, put it to us best.
We're not sizable enough to make a candidate win,
but we're sizable enough to make a candidate lose.
Now, after hearing from him, we went to a Baptist church right here in Detroit
and spent some time with Reverend Kenneth Flowers.
He's a committed Democrat, a Biden fan.
He'll be voting, but he points to the low unemployment rates
and the infrastructure bill as some of the wins for his community.
But he's in his 60s, and he says he's concerned because in his congregation and community,
he's hearing that same apathy and sometimes anger.
Now, Black voters turned out for Biden in 2020.
He won by about 94% among that demographic.
This year, though, Flowers says, based on his conversations,
the president doesn't have the same pull now as he did then,
and he has a lot of work to do before.
President Biden needs every Black vote he can get.
Now, at the same time, he nor Vice President Harris should take our vote for granted.
They have to earn it.
Of course, no group is a monolith, Steve.
But that's the type of apathy we heard,
not just in these candidates, but in the two-party system itself.
And let's remember that the vote was pretty close in 2020.
Now, Don, Layla has given us some impressions of specific voters there.
How do those impressions compare with what you have experienced
as someone who's living in Michigan?
Oh, it's real.
According to my reporting, according to my living here and encountering people,
it's especially palpable in the Arab and Muslim-American communities, certainly.
But African-American voters talk about their frustrations.
And if you head out to the suburbs where a lot of independents
and more moderate Republicans helped Biden out in 2020,
they're still watching.
And for some, it's maybe not even a choice between Biden and Trump.
It's whether or not to vote at all at the top of the ballot.
This is indeed worth mentioning.
And already people are quick to ponder a third-party vote
when I have conversations with them.
I used to hear a lot of that over the years in the general election,
but never during primary week.
And now Nikki Haley supporters I talk to are wondering
what other options may be out there for them.
Same with Arab-American voters, certainly with Black voters too.
I'm glad you mentioned suburbs.
Of course, there's a lot of Midwestern suburbs
that were very red years ago and are getting more blue.
And the question is whether Biden can sustain that.
And I also wonder about the union vote in Michigan.
Union households traditionally support Democrats,
some like Trump, certainly.
But overall, Biden won them big.
With the United Auto Workers Union,
it's usually around 60% for the Democrat,
a solid margin by any measure, right?
And it helped Biden win in 2020.
But the catch is there's no letting up for Biden.
He needs to do that again.
He needs that margin.
He does have a big endorsement from the UAW
and its charismatic new leader, Sean Fain.
The UAW was coming off a strike in the fall
and they got a contract with big raises.
Biden even marched on the picket line with them.
Yeah, well, I went out to Flint where GM was founded.
And despite all these wins,
I spent time with a family that's four generations
of auto workers and they all seem to be leaning,
not enthusiastically, but leaning towards Trump
over things like immigration and Ukraine.
And that underscores this is not a monolith.
Biden needs to work it because he needs to do well
with unions more than ever,
especially if other pieces of the coalition,
as we've been talking, are not enthusiastic.
You know, it's a mix of constituencies
that Democrats really need to win in Michigan.
Biden needs to tend to them all
and to do so by keeping the margins of victory
at their typical level within each group.
And Trump, meanwhile, just has to make some inroads
and to pick off enough of them to win himself.
We'll keep listening for both of your reporting
in the days ahead.
NPR's Leila Fadal and Don Gagne, thanks to you both.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
The U.S. government wants to stop a merger
of grocery chains and nine states are going along.
America's two largest supermarket chains,
Kroger and Albertson's, want to become one.
That mega merger would reshape the industry,
which now also includes retail giants
like Amazon and Walmart.
But the Biden administration
and several states are suing to block it.
NPR's Lena Seljuk is here.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Okay, I want to clear up the very important thing.
I grew up in Indiana saying grocery.
People also say, what, grocery?
People complain about that.
I've heard, I mean, obviously lots of people say grocery.
I say grocery.
Okay, grocery it is for the course of this report.
We'll stick to that.
How big would these two grocery chains be
if they're combined?
This would be the biggest grocery deal
in recent history.
It's worth almost $25 billion.
And so what you have is you have Kroger,
which is the largest supermarket chain.
It owns all these other stores
like Ralph's, Harris Teeter, Fred Meyer.
And then you have Albertson's,
which is its top direct competitor.
And it also owns Safeway, Vons, Juul, Osco.
And together they employ 720,000 people.
They own about 5,000 locations across 48 states.
And so the Federal Trade Commission,
along with nine states,
are suing to stop that merger,
arguing that it would erase competition
for both shoppers and for workers.
Wow, I'm realizing, listening to this,
I mean, my mom hundreds of miles from here
is shopping in one of these stores.
I'm shopping in one of these stores.
Yeah, so what is the case
that the companies took to the government
that this merger should be okay?
They presented this deal as existential
to surviving in today's grocery business.
They say, sure, we're top regional chains,
but the real competitors are these national giants
like Amazon, Walmart, Costco, even dollar stores.
Walmart sells more groceries
than Kroger and Albertsons combined.
Plus they say the two of them
are the largest union shops in American retail.
And so they say blocking their deal
would actually just boost
these massive non-union stores.
And they certainly expect a tough scrutiny.
They also tried to cushion their deal
by pitching a plan to sell off hundreds of stores
in areas where they overlap
to basically create a competitor to themselves.
Saying we are the union shops
would seem to be an argument designed
to appeal to the pro-union Biden administration,
but it sounds like federal regulators weren't impressed.
They did not buy the arguments on,
for example, on the plan to sell the stores.
The FTC said this plan is a messy hodgepodge
that the buyer would struggle to run,
let alone grow to compete.
On the question on national competitors,
I post that one to Rahul Rao.
He's one of the main officials on this case at the FTC.
And he said the review really looked
at how people actually shop for food.
For example, there's not a Walmart near where I live.
And in a lot of rural communities,
there aren't Walmarts out there.
It takes days for Amazon to be delivered.
Dollar stores don't carry a deli or a butcher.
And the main argument against the merger right now
is that Kroger and Albertsons compete head-to-head
on food prices, on pharmacy hours,
on quality of products, on benefit packages.
And they wouldn't really need to
if they're the same company.
Is this lawsuit going all the way to trial?
I think so, and pretty rapidly in legal terms.
It will be a very interesting case.
One thing to note, regulators are going
to be testing this new kind of argument,
which is that mergers should protect
not only consumers and prices, but also workers.
And we haven't really seen it tested in court,
so it will be interesting to watch.
And, Pearsalina Seljuk, thanks for the update
on the grocery, grocery, grocery industry.
Grocery, grocery. Thank you.
And that's a first for this Tuesday, February 27th,
almost the last day of the month
that I have to pronounce February.
I'm Steve Inskeep.
And I'm Michelle Martin.
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