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A negotiator trying for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas has a warning.

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He says an attack on U.S. forces risks widening the war instead of ending it.

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So how can the U.S. respond without engulfing much of the region in a spiraling conflict?

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I'm Steve Inskeep with A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News.

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Texas is telling the federal government to stay out of the way at the southern border.

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You don't need to be here.

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What's the endgame for the escalation between the state and the feds over immigration and

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border control?

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And farmers use tractors to block major roadways leading to and from Paris as part of what

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they're calling a siege.

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We'll hear why farmers in France are forcing a standoff with the government over wages

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and regulations.

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Stay with us.

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One of the diplomats trying to stop the Israel-Hamas war gave a warning.

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He said an attack on U.S. forces could widen the war instead of ending it.

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The Prime Minister of Qatar is in Washington for talks with U.S. officials trying to work

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out a framework of a deal to pause or end the war in Gaza and get Israeli hostages released.

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NPR's Eder Peralta joins us now from Tel Aviv.

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So what's this warning about?

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It all stems from this attack against U.S. forces.

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Three American service members were killed in the drone attack in Jordan.

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The U.S. says the attack came from an Iranian-backed militia in Iraq.

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And officials tell NPR that the air defense systems at the base were thwarted.

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It appears that a U.S. drone was in the sky at the same time as this enemy drone.

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And so operators were confused.

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They didn't know whether this was a friendly or an enemy aircraft.

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So it was able to attack the base.

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More than 40 other U.S. troops were injured.

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And now what everyone is waiting for is the U.S. response.

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Yeah, and then there's concern that that response, whatever it happens to be,

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could derail these talks.

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Yeah, that's right.

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The prime minister and foreign minister of Qatar, Mohammed bin Abdul Rahman Al-Thani,

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is in Washington for talks with U.S. officials.

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Qatar is playing a critical role in the negotiations with Israel, the U.S., and Egypt.

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And speaking to the Atlantic Council, he said the situation in the Middle East is boiling.

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Everyone, he says, is dancing at the edge.

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And everyone knows that this attack against U.S. forces in Jordan will have consequences.

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Let's listen.

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I hope that nothing would undermine the efforts that we are doing or jeopardize the process.

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Yet, it will definitely have an impact on it and will, one way or another, it will have

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an impact on the regional security.

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And we hope that things get contained and not to get scattered beyond control.

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And look, this attack against U.S. forces is coming at a really critical time in this

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Israeli war against Hamas.

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The death toll is mounting.

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There are still more than 100 Israeli hostages in Gaza.

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They've been there since October 7th.

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There's been high-level meetings in Paris to reach a deal or to try to stop or pause

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the fighting and to release the hostages.

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And the worry is that these attacks in the region can complicate those talks.

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And what the prime minister of Qatar is saying is that whatever that American retaliation

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is has the potential to throw the peace process between Israel and Hamas into disarray.

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And that's important because so much of this chaos has emerged from this conflict.

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Just to put that in context, the Pentagon says that there have been about 160 attacks

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against U.S. bases since the Gaza war broke out.

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About that peace process, Hayter, what are the chances of something coming out of it?

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Our understanding is that right now it's with Hamas, that they are considering the deal

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that was hashed out by the international community.

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And the outside world seems much more hopeful about the prospects.

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Secretary of State Antony Blinken said that there was, quote, real hope for a deal.

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But since those talks wrapped, there have been dueling statements issued by Israel and

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Hamas that leave an impression that there is still a lot of work to do.

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There's even disagreement about what a ceasefire would mean.

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Would it be for a determined amount of time or would it be a permanent ceasefire?

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And meanwhile, the war continues in Gaza.

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More than 26,000 Palestinians have been killed, according to Gaza's health ministry.

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And yesterday evening, Hamas launched rockets toward here in Tel Aviv.

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That hadn't happened in weeks.

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And in the West Bank city of Jenin, Israeli military raided a major hospital there and

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killed three militants.

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They say they were planning an attack.

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The hospital says that they were actually patient.

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All right, that's NPR's Hayter Peralta reporting from Tel Aviv.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Julian Aguilar with the Texas newsroom is following the story.

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He joins us now from El Paso.

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Two weeks of this border standoff.

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What's the state of Texas' argument for its hardline stance?

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Well, Republican Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton again told the Department of Homeland

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Security, in short, Texas isn't budging and won't surrender control of Shelby Park.

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That's the area in Eagle Pass that was heavily traversed by migrants who were seeking asylum

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until Texas National Guard and state police took control.

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Paxton's response came after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled last week that U.S. Border Patrol

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agents can remove some of the barriers erected by state officers, which includes miles of

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razor wire.

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Agents said they have a right to access the river to perform their duties, which include

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apprehending migrants and processing them according to federal law.

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But here's Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick on Friday basically telling the federal government,

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give it up and move on.

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So I would say to President Biden, you say you want to secure the border, you can prove

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it by getting out of our way here.

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You don't need to be here.

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So, OK, Texas is a state which sits on the border with Mexico, but Texas is part of the

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United States, so that makes its border with Mexico America's border with Mexico.

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So, Julian, what's the question here?

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So this all centers on who has the authority to control the borders and immigration.

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Texas's actions are part of Operation Lone Star, which Governor Greg Abbott initiated

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three years ago to stop what he claims are the Biden administration's, quote, open border

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policies.

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And while Border Patrol agents apprehend and process migrants, which is part of their job,

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Texas is arguing that migrants should be arrested on the spot and detained.

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And that's what state officers have been doing with control over the park, arresting

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migrants on trespassing charges.

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That's different from what federal agents do when they detain migrants and release some

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of the migrants while they await immigration hearings.

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But how can the state continue to block access, even after the Supreme Court order?

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I mean, is Texas openly defying the Supreme Court here?

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So legal experts say that Texas isn't in outright defiance of the Supreme Court order,

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at least not yet.

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So the five to four order only vacated a lower court order that forbade federal agents from

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cutting the wire as the case plays out in the courts.

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But the justices didn't explain why in their one page order.

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Steve Ladek, a constitutional scholar at the University of Texas at Austin, said the high

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courts ruling essentially protects the federal government from sanctions if they remove the

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wire, but it didn't order Texas to withdraw or stop doing anything.

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The larger issue that the court will eventually have to tackle is who is the supreme authority

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on immigration, individual states or the federal government.

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And immigrant rights groups are voicing concern that this whole thing could escalate.

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I mean, how worried are people about that?

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Yeah, sure.

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So nerves are somewhat frayed, but it's not as if state guard troops and federal agents

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are locked and loaded and pointing weapons at each other.

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In the past, there has been good cooperation between the state and federal officers, specifically

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state officers turn over migrant women and children to Border Patrol on most occasions.

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But a group that called itself Take Our Border Back put out on social media an open call

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to active and retired law enforcement and military ranchers, truckers and other, quote,

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freedom loving Americans to rally in Arizona, California and Eagle Pass, Texas this weekend

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to call on the federal government to, quote, secure the border.

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It's billed as a peaceful event, but there have been reports of messages in online chat

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rooms that include some alarming language that gives a nod to vigilantism and possible

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violence.

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That's Julian Aguilar with the Texas Newsroom.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Angry French farmers have surrounded Paris in what they're calling a siege of the French

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capital.

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Highways leading in and out of the city are blocked by hundreds of tractors.

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It's all part of a standoff between the farmers and the French government.

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Reporter Rebecca Rossman joins us now from Paris.

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So, Rebecca, a siege.

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That sounds very intense.

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Why are farmers using the word siege?

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Well, for one thing, it's a great attention grabbing word, right?

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Siege.

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But whatever you call it, they're causing major traffic disruptions.

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The farmers are blocking the main highways that enter Paris one by one.

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I was at the A1 highway last night, which is the main road between the city and Charles

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de Gaulle Airport.

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Hundreds of farmers are camped out there.

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Dozens of tractors are blocking all lanes in both directions.

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And the farmers are settling in for what could be a long week.

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They have tents set up, barbecues and even portable toilets.

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All right.

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So what's got them so angry that they're using tractors as traffic barriers?

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Well, they've got a long list of complaints, and it's a bit complicated.

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But let me walk you through some of the big ones.

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There are mounting complaints about poor working conditions, unfair competition caused by

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cheaper agricultural products coming in from elsewhere in the EU, even countries like Spain

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and Italy and beyond.

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And then you have this question of overregulation.

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I spoke with one farmer whose family has been in this business for over 100 years.

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His name is Pierre de Wilde.

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And here's what he had to say.

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So he's saying things have become increasingly difficult in the last 10 years in particular,

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with too much regulation at both the French and EU level, which has significantly lowered

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the farmers' output, which has in turn lowered their profits.

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All right.

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So how's the French government responding?

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Well, these protests actually began in the south of France and have steadily been moving north.

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So the French government actually did make some concessions last week.

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They promised to change some of these bureaucratic regulations,

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give farmers some emergency funding and guarantee a living wage.

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They also said they would scrap plans to get rid of a diesel subsidy for farmers.

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But it obviously hasn't been enough to please them entirely.

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For example, France's regulations for organic produce are stricter than the rest of the EU.

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And the farmers say that's not fair.

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Regulations to do with climate change are also stricter.

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And all this puts the French farmers at a disadvantage compared to other farmers in the EU.

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And the new French prime minister, Gabriel Attal,

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is supposed to address all this in parliament later today.

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So what do the French people have to say about this?

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It sounds to me, Rebecca, like they're the ones most affected,

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from what the farmers produce to having their commutes being blocked.

3Speaker 3
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Yeah, you're right.

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But I have to say, there's actually pretty big widespread support.

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One poll has shown that 90% of the French population supports the farmers on this one.

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I spoke to Tufik Balakat, and he's a taxi driver,

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someone whose livelihood is directly impacted by all this.

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Right.

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And here's what he had to say.

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So he's saying he doesn't have a problem with what they're doing,

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and he's actually ready to lose money

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if it means the farmers are going to get more help from the French government.

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If you remember this siege, it's not even 24 hours old yet.

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And the farmers say they're going to stay at least until Thursday,

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when French President Emmanuel Macron is going to be in Brussels for an EU summit.

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And the farmers are demanding that Macron use this visit

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as an excuse to carry this fight to the EU level.

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That's reporter Rebecca Rossmann in Paris.

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Thanks a lot.

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Thank you.

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